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Posted by willey on December 24, 2009, at 1:05:03
Well i manged to get my meds working very well for me,however just well enough for me to wake normaly,perform through the day normaly,and be alive at night with normal social desires such as watching tv (office my favorite) to simply playing with my dogs.
I still lacked a lot,a more social desire,a more anti depressant effect,ocd effect etc.Simply put i needed more from my meds.
As always i searched,zonegran was the first recent med i came across of interest,however upon taking it had a robust effect for three days then went toaly psycothic,starting with obsessive net use,stopped working out,stopped shaving,social avoidance,lack of caring,sobbing,etc.
Keeing track of my meds/response with the help of my girl it wasnt long before we pinned down that the new med was obviously the cause,and after stopping in half a week i was back to myself.
Ok not the point of the post lol,what is the point would be the drug camprel,it is almost extenisvly mentioned for alcholol w/d only,however reading the pharmoclogy of it i decedied it had a chance of helping me.
My first week on it was uneventful,however this week i noticed an extreme increase in my talking,i have a strong desire to talk,and be around company,also depression seems to have a much less time being able to stick to me,kinda slides off or should i say i seem to be able to fight it off much easier.
I know a maniac response having in the past added stimulants to parnate,and although slight similiar in apreance,this med does not seem to be doing so,there is no dramatic shift in mood,rather simply a more steady mood.
I know i can be here saying this,and next week saying it had negative effects,this is the way new meds are,but for now the releiaf its bringing is at the very least sharing it.
Camprel has very little interactions,even sedatives do not alter its effect,nor does it alter theirs.This is from their data sheet.
I dont see why its addition would be limited to maoi augment,so i mention this to everyone to perhaps take a read on it and see what u think,for now its helping and its been very subtle in its onset.Thanks!
Current of ever changing med cocktail50 mg parnate/.5 klonopin/low dose gabpentin/half a caffiene tab of 250 mg/camprel
This cocktail is repeated 2 times daily,for a dose of 100 mg parnate total.
I also always have my bad days,i am content with that,however this cocktail for the time is helping,also i use as needed a substance ive mentioned but dont feel i should add at this moment.
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:33:17
In reply to Anti-depressant augment, posted by willey on December 24, 2009, at 1:05:03
Seriously that's great. I remember a poster taking campral for alchohol and it was mentioned it had anti anxiety effects. The person wasn't on an MAOI I think either SSRI or SNRI and same happened. And also believe she fully recovered from alchohol. So it's definitely a drug worth mentioning. And Merry Christmas. Love Phillipa
Posted by willey on December 24, 2009, at 15:59:52
In reply to Re: Anti-depressant augment » willey, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:33:17
Thank you,yess i feel even if stuff thats posted people dont find will be helpful for them personaly,i think its crucial we all continue to make people aware of options,this is what will give us any type of upper hand on anxiety,this is what saves us from being limited to the slow moving industry that obviously seems to be failing in the big picture.
I appreciate your response,just a little saddened that most of my posts never seem to evolve into even a comment for the most part,eh prob be over sensative as i hear its a trademark of mine lol.
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 20:49:11
In reply to Re: Anti-depressant augment, posted by willey on December 24, 2009, at 15:59:52
Oh I know what you mean so well. Love Phillipa
Posted by inanimate peanut on December 24, 2009, at 22:32:21
In reply to Anti-depressant augment, posted by willey on December 24, 2009, at 1:05:03
I've never heard of Camprel before. What exactly is it for? I'll have to research more into it. Thanks for posting.
Posted by bulldog2 on December 25, 2009, at 17:39:12
In reply to Anti-depressant augment, posted by willey on December 24, 2009, at 1:05:03
> Well i manged to get my meds working very well for me,however just well enough for me to wake normaly,perform through the day normaly,and be alive at night with normal social desires such as watching tv (office my favorite) to simply playing with my dogs.
>
> I still lacked a lot,a more social desire,a more anti depressant effect,ocd effect etc.Simply put i needed more from my meds.
>
> As always i searched,zonegran was the first recent med i came across of interest,however upon taking it had a robust effect for three days then went toaly psycothic,starting with obsessive net use,stopped working out,stopped shaving,social avoidance,lack of caring,sobbing,etc.
>
> Keeing track of my meds/response with the help of my girl it wasnt long before we pinned down that the new med was obviously the cause,and after stopping in half a week i was back to myself.
>
> Ok not the point of the post lol,what is the point would be the drug camprel,it is almost extenisvly mentioned for alcholol w/d only,however reading the pharmoclogy of it i decedied it had a chance of helping me.
>
> My first week on it was uneventful,however this week i noticed an extreme increase in my talking,i have a strong desire to talk,and be around company,also depression seems to have a much less time being able to stick to me,kinda slides off or should i say i seem to be able to fight it off much easier.
>
> I know a maniac response having in the past added stimulants to parnate,and although slight similiar in apreance,this med does not seem to be doing so,there is no dramatic shift in mood,rather simply a more steady mood.
>
> I know i can be here saying this,and next week saying it had negative effects,this is the way new meds are,but for now the releiaf its bringing is at the very least sharing it.
>
> Camprel has very little interactions,even sedatives do not alter its effect,nor does it alter theirs.This is from their data sheet.
>
> I dont see why its addition would be limited to maoi augment,so i mention this to everyone to perhaps take a read on it and see what u think,for now its helping and its been very subtle in its onset.Thanks!
>
>
> Current of ever changing med cocktail
>
> 50 mg parnate/.5 klonopin/low dose gabpentin/half a caffiene tab of 250 mg/camprel
>
> This cocktail is repeated 2 times daily,for a dose of 100 mg parnate total.
>
> I also always have my bad days,i am content with that,however this cocktail for the time is helping,also i use as needed a substance ive mentioned but dont feel i should add at this moment.
>
>I find that 800 milligrams gabapentin makes me more social and has some mood boosting qualities. But as it wears off depression reappears. On the other hand parnate is a better antidepressant. But when I use high dose gabapentin with parante they seem to cancel each other out. So right now I'm just on the gabapentin and dropped the parnate. So for me it's got to one or the other.hard to make a choice.
Posted by Phillipa on December 25, 2009, at 19:54:06
In reply to Re: Anti-depressant augment, posted by inanimate peanut on December 24, 2009, at 22:32:21
Alchohol withdrawal with an antianxiety effect. Phillipa
Posted by willey on December 25, 2009, at 20:50:05
In reply to Re: Anti-depressant augment, posted by bulldog2 on December 25, 2009, at 17:39:12
Ur right on the money,i wouldent say cancel each other out,but creates a yucky feeling.Heres 2 options i can recomend to avoid this,
Gabpentin is a good sleep med,take a high dose at bed time,the effect will have u awake very calm,and will potiante and ad to your parnate.
Second,create a combo,simplest i can recomend is what i use,parnate,caffien tab half,partial benzo if u have,and then a much smaller much much smaller amount of gabpentin like 1-10 ratio of what is a high dose,and they will syneryzie and youll get the gabpentin affect without loosing parnates.
Of course i cant say this is fact,as always just what i experiance.
P.S a benzo would not be needed just adds.
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