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Posted by Yoga_Lover30 on June 23, 2009, at 15:07:56
Hi,
I am currently taking 20mg of Lexapro for anxiety and depression and 15mg of Mitrazipine (generic Remeron) for sleep. Since starting the Mitrazipine, I have been expereincing Tardive Dyskinesia symptoms which include trembling of my lower lip. I want to talk with my psychiatrist about weaning off of my medications and starting on EMPower Plus. I have printed out information from the TrueHope website for her to read. I'm looking for case studies and EMPower Plus user testimonies. Does anyone have any suggestions? What is the best way to safely wean from my current meds to start the EMPower Plus supplementation? Any experienced EMPower Plus users?
Thanks,
Yoga_Lover30
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on June 24, 2009, at 14:53:23
In reply to EMPower Plus Supplement, posted by Yoga_Lover30 on June 23, 2009, at 15:07:56
no, yet i take SmartThink, my Psychiatrist who needs to re-examined himself for his degree, took me off vital mediation and won't treat. Just praying for the Lord of Hosts to take of this.
And get to somewhere that "a true person" who cares, not fake, not for the money, not for the reputation, has a great voice, yet talk's trash over the phone to my previous therpist. Give me a break. I through, this man could help me, he was the worst, person ever to go to.
Take care. Yoga, Visual Imagery is also good, it increases concentration, while asleep, thinking of the best place you want to get away to, and then apply it to the world it's self (reality) Make it happen!
EMPOWERMENT! THAT'S RIGHT! get the quack doctor's of the planet!
rj
Posted by yxibow on June 28, 2009, at 3:51:14
In reply to EMPower Plus Supplement, posted by Yoga_Lover30 on June 23, 2009, at 15:07:56
> Hi,
>
> I am currently taking 20mg of Lexapro for anxiety and depression and 15mg of Mitrazipine (generic Remeron) for sleep. Since starting the Mitrazipine, I have been expereincing Tardive Dyskinesia symptoms which include trembling of my lower lip. I want to talk with my psychiatrist about weaning off of my medications and starting on EMPower Plus. I have printed out information from the TrueHope website for her to read. I'm looking for case studies and EMPower Plus user testimonies. Does anyone have any suggestions? What is the best way to safely wean from my current meds to start the EMPower Plus supplementation? Any experienced EMPower Plus users?
>See my previous response to you above ---
Trembling of the lower lip is not Tardive Dyskinesia as you stated the time you were on Remeron.
It is a possible EPS spectrum side effect though of the two medicines conceivably.
If you're really concerned about TD, ask your doctor for a simple AIMS exam -- your psychiatrist should know how to perform this.
Also, people who develop TD are -not- aware of the condition. This is basic evidence based medical and neurological knowledge.
There are also conditions that are temporary that are not Tardive at all and disappear.
The anxiety spectrum itself can also cause random twitches and trembles in any part of the body.
Its possible that this combination of medications may be producing too many side effects for you --- it is always a trade off whether the benefits outweigh the risks in -any- medical challenge, mental illness/biochemical imbalance or otherwise.
One thing to possibly ask your doctor about is a trial of propranolol and/or Artane/Cogentin to see if the trembling subsides.
Definitely if you take an anticholinergic like the latter two, and things dampen, it is NOT TD.
As for EmpowerPlus, I already posted about Health Canada's attempt at cease and desist.
It is now in that country's equivalent of a supplement, and the ingredients are plainly listed as I think per requirement on Health Canada's side.
It is beyond "alternative medicine" in my opinion -- the q* word comes to mind.People who have "dumped" their medications for it have had serious consequences sometimes.
Just because there are testimonials about vitamins you can practically buy all of them over the counter, doesn't mean that the placebo effect isn't a full state.
"Testimonials" for something that is supposed to 'cure' something is also a fair sign that it isn't a medical product that has had thousands of double blind patient-trials.
But, far be it from me to stop someone from venturing into alternative medical practices... its just......and I seem to have to always silence myself for board rules so I can't say what I really think about this product and the faults that it could cause...
...I'll just reiterate again that it goes way beyond what I even see as alternative possibilities in my mind.
-- Jay
Posted by johnnybaklava on November 15, 2009, at 15:01:25
In reply to Re: EMPower Plus Supplement » Yoga_Lover30, posted by yxibow on June 28, 2009, at 3:51:14
I've been on Empower for about four months now, a really really low dose as I don't think I need much (I haven't been on psychiatric medications for a year) and it has been the best thing for me since Zoloft (at least the first timethe second time I went on Zoloft was weird). Everything else, alternative and non-alternative, either made me edgy or out of it. Empowerplus helps me feel like myself. It's subtle and I still have ups and downs, but I've noticed a subtle shift in perspective. I may up my dose to help with winter, but so far so good!Magnesium at night and Empower in the morning have been a consistent duo. I don't find myself shifting things around like I used to, looking for that precarious supplemental sweet spot.
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am currently taking 20mg of Lexapro for anxiety and depression and 15mg of Mitrazipine (generic Remeron) for sleep. Since starting the Mitrazipine, I have been expereincing Tardive Dyskinesia symptoms which include trembling of my lower lip. I want to talk with my psychiatrist about weaning off of my medications and starting on EMPower Plus. I have printed out information from the TrueHope website for her to read. I'm looking for case studies and EMPower Plus user testimonies. Does anyone have any suggestions? What is the best way to safely wean from my current meds to start the EMPower Plus supplementation? Any experienced EMPower Plus users?
> >
>
> See my previous response to you above ---
>
> Trembling of the lower lip is not Tardive Dyskinesia as you stated the time you were on Remeron.
>
> It is a possible EPS spectrum side effect though of the two medicines conceivably.
>
> If you're really concerned about TD, ask your doctor for a simple AIMS exam -- your psychiatrist should know how to perform this.
>
> Also, people who develop TD are -not- aware of the condition. This is basic evidence based medical and neurological knowledge.
>
> There are also conditions that are temporary that are not Tardive at all and disappear.
>
> The anxiety spectrum itself can also cause random twitches and trembles in any part of the body.
>
> Its possible that this combination of medications may be producing too many side effects for you --- it is always a trade off whether the benefits outweigh the risks in -any- medical challenge, mental illness/biochemical imbalance or otherwise.
>
> One thing to possibly ask your doctor about is a trial of propranolol and/or Artane/Cogentin to see if the trembling subsides.
>
> Definitely if you take an anticholinergic like the latter two, and things dampen, it is NOT TD.
>
> As for EmpowerPlus, I already posted about Health Canada's attempt at cease and desist.
>
>
> It is now in that country's equivalent of a supplement, and the ingredients are plainly listed as I think per requirement on Health Canada's side.
>
>
> It is beyond "alternative medicine" in my opinion -- the q* word comes to mind.
>
> People who have "dumped" their medications for it have had serious consequences sometimes.
>
> Just because there are testimonials about vitamins you can practically buy all of them over the counter, doesn't mean that the placebo effect isn't a full state.
>
> "Testimonials" for something that is supposed to 'cure' something is also a fair sign that it isn't a medical product that has had thousands of double blind patient-trials.
>
>
> But, far be it from me to stop someone from venturing into alternative medical practices... its just...
>
> ...and I seem to have to always silence myself for board rules so I can't say what I really think about this product and the faults that it could cause...
>
> ...I'll just reiterate again that it goes way beyond what I even see as alternative possibilities in my mind.
>
>
> -- Jay
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