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Posted by KimStereo on May 16, 2009, at 8:32:16
It took me 2 years to figure out, but finally now on my way to recovery, or so I hope.
Everyone here should look into this when you don't respond to meds for either your Anxiety or Depression and it just seems so Atypical.
Lyme isn't just aches and pains. In fact, you don't have to have any of that. The Tics now carry co-infections. Specifically Bartonella and Babesia, which can many times show up as Anxiety / Depression or both as the first symptoms.
Here is a checklist I was given and if you can check many boxes, you should look into this. Please write back to me for information as I have tons of it. My anxiety is not such an issue these days as it was. Also, here is a great .pdf file titled "What Psychiatrists Should Know About Lyme Disease". http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ilads.org%2FPsychiatristBrochure.pdf&ei=2L8OSr-EL4HKtgfu6-2HCA&rct=j&q=what+psychiatrists+should+know+about+lyme+disease&usg=AFQjCNHafZueme9reZCYIfiuGHpz39SQrQ
BARTONELLOSIS
Common symptoms of bartonellosis include:
___Fatigue (often with agitation, unlike Lyme disease, which is more exhaustion)
___Low grade fevers, especially morning and/or late afternoon, often associated with feelings of "coming down with the flu or a virus"
___Sweats, often morning or late afternoon (sometimes at night) - often described as "thick" or "sticky" in nature
___Headaches, especially frontal (often confused with sinus) or on top of head
___Eye symptoms including episodes of blurred vision, red eyes, dry eyes
___Ringing in the ears (tinnitus) and sometimes hearing problems (decreased or even increased sensitivity - so-called hyperacusis)
___Sore throats (recurring)
___Swollen glands, especially neck and under arms (SOMETIMES)
___Anxiety and worry attacks; others perceive as "very anxious"
___Episodes of confusion and disorientation that are usually transient (and very scary); often can be seizure-like in nature
___Poor sleep (especially difficulty falling asleep); poor sleep quality
___Joint pain and stiffness (often both Left and Right sides as opposed to Lyme which is often on one side only with pain and stiffness that changes locations)
___Muscle pains especially the calves; may be twitching and cramping also
___Foot pain, more in the morning involving the heels or soles of the feet (sometimes misdiagnosed as plantar fasciitis)
___Nerve irritation symptoms which can be described as burning, vibrating, numb, shooting, etc.
___Tremors and/or muscle twitching
___Heart palpitations and strange chest pains
___Episodes of breathlessness
___Strange rashes recurring on the body often, red stretch marks, and peculiar tender lumps and nodules along the sides of the legs or arms, spider veins
___Gastrointestinal symptoms, abdominal pain and acid reflux (keep in mind i took my gallbladder out 3 months back)
___Shin bone pain and tenderness
Bartonella is a bacterium that causes illness, the most commonly known of which is a disease called "Cat Scratch Fever." Thousands of known cases of Bartonella occur in the U.S. each Year, with the vast majority of known cases due to bites from fleas that infest cats or infected dogs (may also occur directly from bites and scratches from infected dogs or cats). Bartonella can also be transmitted by ticks that transmit Lyme Disease. In fact, in a study published recently, deer ticks from New Jersey had a higher prevalence of Bartonella organisms than of Lyme organisms.
It is unclear whether the organism that we see transmitted along with Lyme disease is actually a Bartonella species (such as B. henselae or B. quintana) or is "Bartonella-Like Organism" (BLO) that is yet to be fully identified. While BLO has features similar to organisms in the Bartonella family, it also has features slimiar to the Mycoplasma and the Francisella (causes tularemia) families.
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BABESIOSISAs with other co-infections, there is a lot of overlap of symptoms between Lyme disease and Babesiosis. An accumulation of the following signs and symptoms probably warrant testing and/or treatment of Babesiosis:
___Chills
___Fatigue and often excessive sleepiness
___High fever at onset of illness
___Night sweats that are often drenching and profuse
___Severe muscle pains, especially the large muscles of the legs (quads, buttocks, etc.)
___Neurological symptoms often described as "dizzy, tipsy, and spaciness," similar to a sensation of "floating" or "walking off the top of a mountain onto a cloud"
___Depression
___Episodes of breathlessness, "air hunger", and/or cough
___Decreased appetite and/or nausea
___Spleen and/or liver enlargement
___Abnormal labs (low white blood count, low platelet counts, mild elevation of liver enzymes, and elevated sed rate)
___Headaches (migraine-like, persistent, and especially involving the back of the head and upper neck areas)
___Joint pain (more common with Lyme and Bartonella)
___anxiety/panic (more common with Bartonella)
___Lymph gland swelling (more common with Bartonella and Lyme) (my neck seems swollen but i did test for my lymph and it seems to be fine, but the size of it is not right)
Posted by odon on May 16, 2009, at 9:33:45
In reply to My Anxiety is a result of Chronic Lyme disease, posted by KimStereo on May 16, 2009, at 8:32:16
Very interesting.I think a number of psychatric ailments may be due at least in part to these things.I hope someone can answer what antibiotics besides the tetracyclines are effective in things like Bartonella,Babesia etc.
Posted by odon on May 16, 2009, at 9:36:56
In reply to Re: My Anxiety is a result of Chronic Lyme disease, posted by odon on May 16, 2009, at 9:33:45
You said your on your road to recovery,what helped you?
Posted by Phillipa on May 16, 2009, at 10:30:05
In reply to Re: My Anxiety is a result of Chronic Lyme disease, posted by odon on May 16, 2009, at 9:36:56
I've had chronic lymes diagnosed by infection control specialist never had any of those symptoms. Just that meds never really worked for me other than benzos. Phillipa
Posted by Zana on May 16, 2009, at 15:05:54
In reply to Re: My Anxiety is a result of Chronic Lyme disease, posted by Phillipa on May 16, 2009, at 10:30:05
My parents had to put down a dearly loved cat because the cat persisted in biting and scratching my mother. Cat scratches are not a minor matter. They require immediate treatment, usually with IV antibiotics for starters. If you get a cat scratch, flood it with water for a good long time, disinfect it with hydrogen peroxide and go to the ER.
Zana
Posted by KimStereo on May 17, 2009, at 11:01:30
In reply to Re: My Anxiety is a result of Chronic Lyme disease, posted by Zana on May 16, 2009, at 15:05:54
Believe it or not, I am getting relief from a Rife Machine. It works on the theory of "Resonance". This is the same as an Opera singer breaking a glass with his high pitched tone. I use frequencies in line with the Lyme bacteria, Bartonella and Babesia, which are the two most common co-infections with Lyme disease.
I am also on the Salt / C protocol, which creates an alkaline state in the body and kills off the bacteria and then eliminates it through Osmosis. The C is Vit. C to boost the immune system.
I honeslty believe that Lyme disease is responsible for CFS, FMS, and many other disorders including the Psychiatric ones.
This is how a Rife Machine works. Great video of bacteria being destroyed under a microscope:
Kim
Posted by yxibow on May 18, 2009, at 15:25:32
In reply to Re: My Anxiety is a result of Chronic Lyme disease, posted by KimStereo on May 17, 2009, at 11:01:30
> Believe it or not, I am getting relief from a Rife Machine. It works on the theory of "Resonance". This is the same as an Opera singer breaking a glass with his high pitched tone. I use frequencies in line with the Lyme bacteria, Bartonella and Babesia, which are the two most common co-infections with Lyme disease.
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> I am also on the Salt / C protocol, which creates an alkaline state in the body and kills off the bacteria and then eliminates it through Osmosis. The C is Vit. C to boost the immune system.
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> I honeslty believe that Lyme disease is responsible for CFS, FMS, and many other disorders including the Psychiatric ones.
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> This is how a Rife Machine works. Great video of bacteria being destroyed under a microscope:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXvuVJwmUS8&feature=PlayList&p=F12CD7C8ABFEF1EF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=38
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> Kim
Well if you want to believe in it that's fine but it is way in the "alternative" side of things and has been banned by the FDA as a result of an investigation into its promoter.I can't say the word q***k here because I'll get my head bitten off but if there ever was a situation...
-- Jay
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