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Posted by Amigan on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:26
I have never tried a mood stabilizer, but i've read way too many posts saying that Lamictal causes anger and i see that it's one of the most popular meds of this kind.
So, i wonder how it's possible for a mood stabilizer to cause anger and yet, to be considered as a good one. It sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2008, at 12:05:38
In reply to Question about Lamictal, posted by Amigan on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:26
Seriously only got to 50mg on lamictal but did throw a plastic bottle at a store from as was angry at the time didn't corrolate it to lamital at the time? So maybe. Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on July 30, 2008, at 12:25:58
In reply to Question about Lamictal, posted by Amigan on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:26
> I have never tried a mood stabilizer, but i've read way too many posts saying that Lamictal causes anger and i see that it's one of the most popular meds of this kind.
> So, i wonder how it's possible for a mood stabilizer to cause anger and yet, to be considered as a good one. It sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Its one of those things that "your miles may vary." For many it acts as a mood stabilizer and an antidepressant.
It is a slow boat to start it off because you have to make sure to avoid any high rises that might trigger SJS ("the rare rash", not an average rash). Once you're at 200mg it doesn't matter as much the rise in dosing, or thereabouts.
I think that if you've gone through all AEDs, it might be a choice -- if you havent tried one before, then Depakote or Trileptal might be choices. But that's up to you and your doctor.-- best wishes
Jay
Posted by Jeroen on July 31, 2008, at 15:23:38
In reply to Re: Question about Lamictal » Amigan, posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2008, at 12:05:38
HI IT GAVE ME AGGRESSION, I THREW MY PLAYSTATION DOWN THE STAIRS, GAVE ME PSYCHOSIS, AND A RIDE TO THE HOSPITAL UNDER POLICE SUPERVISION
QUIT IMMEDIATELLY
Posted by Amigan on July 31, 2008, at 15:39:00
In reply to HALT IMMEDIATELLY, posted by Jeroen on July 31, 2008, at 15:23:38
> HI IT GAVE ME AGGRESSION, I THREW MY PLAYSTATION DOWN THE STAIRS, GAVE ME PSYCHOSIS, AND A RIDE TO THE HOSPITAL UNDER POLICE SUPERVISION
Well yeah. It's cases like yours that made me create this thread. But my initial question remains unanswered.
> QUIT IMMEDIATELLYThanks for the warning. I haven't started it, actually.
Posted by Jeroen on July 31, 2008, at 16:00:27
In reply to Re: HALT IMMEDIATELLY, posted by Amigan on July 31, 2008, at 15:39:00
good, i saved one life today
thanks for taking me serious
Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on July 31, 2008, at 20:43:30
In reply to HALT IMMEDIATELLY, posted by Jeroen on July 31, 2008, at 15:23:38
> QUIT IMMEDIATELLY
> f*ck you bastard psychiatry: industry of death!
Jeroen,
I'm so sorry you have suffered so much, and are still suffering. But I have to ask you to follow the Psycho-Babble guidelines by not exaggerating or posting overgeneralizations about medications or mental health professionals.
Remember, many here now, or new posters who may come here in the future, may have had positive experiences with psychiatrists and with the same medications that you believe aren't good for you.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be directed to Psycho-Babble Admin and should of course be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.
Thanks...
-- 10derHeart, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by yxibow on July 31, 2008, at 23:36:57
In reply to Question about Lamictal, posted by Amigan on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:26
> I have never tried a mood stabilizer, but i've read way too many posts saying that Lamictal causes anger and i see that it's one of the most popular meds of this kind.
> So, i wonder how it's possible for a mood stabilizer to cause anger and yet, to be considered as a good one. It sounds like an oxymoron to me.I haven't heard specifically about the anger thread, but your comment that "it is one one the most popular....." Well a medicine that is mentioned the most on the board by people who have a variety of different brain chemistries and conditions that are not exactly your own is going to naturally get more good and bad comments. Its the natural way things seem to be "rated" on the internet today --- oh I bought that new game player and it was a piece of crap like everyone said; no -- what is everyone saying, this thing is great.
Now I'm not being Pollyanna --- some people could be more sensitive, but remember medications that affect mood could stabilize, or could be deleterious. You just have to go through the list of them, and there is quite a list of them out there.-- tidings
Jay
and I hate to point out a boardmember, but Jeroen has been suffering from some form of schizophreniform spectrum disorder for some time and associates cause and affect with some medications which may or may not be true. Some of us have been trying to steer him to stick with his medications, but it is heartbreaking to see him in this state. Anyhow, I don't want to talk anymore about someone in the third person, but I thought I would brief you on that.
Jeroen, please feel better and realize that while you are trying to find people who are like you, not everyone responds the same.
-- best wishes
-- Jay
Posted by 10derHeart on July 31, 2008, at 23:46:20
In reply to Re: Question about Lamictal » Amigan, posted by yxibow on July 31, 2008, at 23:36:57
...for posting this:
>Anyhow, I don't want to talk anymore about someone in the third person, but I thought I would brief you on that.
>Jeroen, please feel better and realize that while you are trying to find people who are like you, not everyone responds the same.
You're right it probably is better to draw the line, maybe right where you did :-) And it is usually helpful when posters gently remind each other how much mileage varies with meds, etc.
I viewed this as written from a kind and helpful spirit toward someone going through an awful time, and I applaud you for taking the extra step.
-- 10derHeart
Posted by Phillipa on July 31, 2008, at 23:54:35
In reply to Jay, thank you » yxibow, posted by 10derHeart on July 31, 2008, at 23:46:20
Jeroen just so you know we all care for you a lot and hope you find your med soon. Love Phillipa
Posted by Amigan on August 1, 2008, at 8:46:32
In reply to Re: Question about Lamictal » Amigan, posted by yxibow on July 31, 2008, at 23:36:57
Well, i have been reading Lamictal related posts for a while in this board and i have the impression that this anger side-effect is much more frequent than you think it is. There are many individuals who doesn't get this side-effect, naturally.
As for the Jeroen's case, if you search google with the right keywords, you'll see that there is at least one confirmed case of Lamotrigine induced psychosis. Anyway..
Posted by Jeroen on August 1, 2008, at 10:08:43
In reply to Re: Question about Lamictal, posted by Amigan on August 1, 2008, at 8:46:32
dont ever take this bogus medicine
Posted by elbee on August 1, 2008, at 16:58:11
In reply to Question about Lamictal, posted by Amigan on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:26
Hi amigen,
It doesn't cause anger in me.
Posted by Deputy Racer on August 1, 2008, at 22:36:51
In reply to Re: Question about Lamictal, posted by Jeroen on August 1, 2008, at 10:08:43
> dont ever take this bogus medicine
Please follow the site guidelines as they apply to over-generalizations, including a reminder on this thread regarding this topic. I'm very sorry for the distress you've been experiencing, and hope that you find relief soon. Nonetheless, I am blocking you from posting for one week, for failure to respect the rules of this site.
Jeroen, I realize you have been suffering a great deal, and that you associate your psychosis with a specific medication. Other people, however, find that medication very helpful and take it without problems. That's what is meant by the phrase "your mileage may vary" -- that everyone reacts differently to medications, and what one person experiences is not necessarily similar to what another person experiences with the same medication. The rule here is that we respect those differences. If someone posted that Lamictal is great for EVERYONE, I would have issued a reminder for that, as well. I hope you understand this action, and why I felt I needed to take it.
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Deputy Racer
Posted by Tomatheus on August 2, 2008, at 1:59:58
In reply to Question about Lamictal, posted by Amigan on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:26
> So, i wonder how it's possible for a mood stabilizer to cause anger and yet, to be considered as a good one. It sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Amigan,
I haven't tried Lamictal, but I experienced irritability on both of the mood stabilizers that I've taken up to this point (lithium and Depakote). So, it doesn't come to me as much of a surprise that another mood stabilizer could cause anger in some individuals. It does sort of seem paradoxical, though, as a "mood stabilizer" sounds like a type of medication that would be calming. Not with me, though!
Tomatheus
Posted by Mandra on August 5, 2008, at 13:24:03
In reply to Question about Lamictal, posted by Amigan on July 30, 2008, at 11:31:26
> I have never tried a mood stabilizer, but i've read way too many posts saying that Lamictal causes anger and i see that it's one of the most popular meds of this kind.
> So, i wonder how it's possible for a mood stabilizer to cause anger and yet, to be considered as a good one. It sounds like an oxymoron to me.Amigan
I was on Lamictal for about 5 1/2 years. I took 700 mg in conjunction with 900 mg of Lithium. The Lamictal didn't make me angry at the time. I have noticed however, that since switching medicines that I now have anger issues. I don't know if this is a result of the medicine or if it is just personal situations I am dealing with. Jay is right in that every medicine affects everyone individually. Your doctor can help determine what is the best course of action for you with regards to your medication. The best thing to do with meds (that I have found) is to be very open with your doctor. If you notice one day that you are extremely angry, or moody, or very irritable, don't brush it off. Write it down or make a mental note to tell your doctor. All in all, to answer your original question, Lamictal worked wonders for me when I took it in CONJUNCTION with the Lithium for those 5 1/2 years. I hope that helps.
Mandra
Posted by Amigan on August 6, 2008, at 16:12:29
In reply to Re: Question about Lamictal, posted by Mandra on August 5, 2008, at 13:24:03
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