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Posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 12:50:06
Here's a crash course in SSRI weight gain. My twin bro and I both were on Zoloft last year after wbeing on SSRIS for years... we had both gained 70 POUNDS. That's right. We tapered off the Zoloft by the first week in June. It's now ending April.
My Twin Brother- SSRI free since June of '07- LOST ALL OF THE WEIGHT.
ME- I went back on Zoloft at half the dose in July - then moved to Lexapro at 10 MGS in April of '08- I've lost half of the weight so far.
So, there you go.... Pardon me but I see a correlation big pharma!
SSRIs are great, but the weight gain talk should be a blutn issue brought out by the pharma companies.
Posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2008, at 12:58:17
In reply to SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this!, posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 12:50:06
Hey that's great!!!!! More reason for me to do what my pdoc says and stick to low dose luvox and the benzos no weight gain on them didn't spend my last thousands of dollars on a tummy tuck and lipo for nothing. Thanks for the informative thread. Since heart disease diabetes and high cholesterol just to name a few are realated to weight more reason. Now I not saying that some require and do great on SSRI's but not everyone. Guess you and your brother apply how high were your doses as I've heard that zoloft causes no weight gain. Phillipa
Posted by Bob on April 29, 2008, at 13:09:09
In reply to SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this!, posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 12:50:06
> Here's a crash course in SSRI weight gain. My twin bro and I both were on Zoloft last year after wbeing on SSRIS for years... we had both gained 70 POUNDS. That's right. We tapered off the Zoloft by the first week in June. It's now ending April.
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> My Twin Brother- SSRI free since June of '07- LOST ALL OF THE WEIGHT.
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> ME- I went back on Zoloft at half the dose in July - then moved to Lexapro at 10 MGS in April of '08- I've lost half of the weight so far.
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> So, there you go.... Pardon me but I see a correlation big pharma!
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> SSRIs are great, but the weight gain talk should be a blutn issue brought out by the pharma companies.Trust me, you're not telling the big pharmas anything they don't already know. This goes for things like increased suicidality. They're not going to shout things like this from the mountain tops. However, if newer effective meds ever come along, these current ones will quickly be abandoned with the medical community distancing themselves from them. Then, I suspect, you will see little reluctance to point out the bad sides.
This phenomenon is evident if you read abstracts and summaries of medical trials for severe treatment resistant depression. The need for the new treatment study is justified by emphasizing how deficient the current treatments and respective outcomes are and how something new is needed.
Posted by cactus on April 29, 2008, at 14:18:07
In reply to SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this!, posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 12:50:06
wow, you gained weight on zoloft, I've tried 5 ssri's and I lost something like 55 pounds from zoloft which I can't seem to put back on. I had lost a bit of weight before I started zoloft due to changing my diet, but all the other ssri's made me gain weight.
That was last year. I was only zoloft for 5 months and stopped taking it in november. I'm still losing weight and my GP has just finished testing as to why this has happened. I get my last round of test results back next time I see her in a few weeks, but nothing has shown up so far.
18 months ago I was 96kgs (212 pounds) due to medication, now I'm 63kgs (139 pounds) and dropping. I'm right on the edge of being underweight for my size and age. It's freaky how different people react to different meds.
Posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 15:07:32
In reply to Re: SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this! » olysi79, posted by Bob on April 29, 2008, at 13:09:09
Absolutely right...
Lookat how TCAs are poo-pooed now because of their SE profile... I'll bet they were quite the cat's meow when they hit the market too.
Knowing the risks helps US make decisions about our health.> > Here's a crash course in SSRI weight gain. My twin bro and I both were on Zoloft last year after wbeing on SSRIS for years... we had both gained 70 POUNDS. That's right. We tapered off the Zoloft by the first week in June. It's now ending April.
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> > My Twin Brother- SSRI free since June of '07- LOST ALL OF THE WEIGHT.
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> > ME- I went back on Zoloft at half the dose in July - then moved to Lexapro at 10 MGS in April of '08- I've lost half of the weight so far.
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> > So, there you go.... Pardon me but I see a correlation big pharma!
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> > SSRIs are great, but the weight gain talk should be a blutn issue brought out by the pharma companies.
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> Trust me, you're not telling the big pharmas anything they don't already know. This goes for things like increased suicidality. They're not going to shout things like this from the mountain tops. However, if newer effective meds ever come along, these current ones will quickly be abandoned with the medical community distancing themselves from them. Then, I suspect, you will see little reluctance to point out the bad sides.
>
> This phenomenon is evident if you read abstracts and summaries of medical trials for severe treatment resistant depression. The need for the new treatment study is justified by emphasizing how deficient the current treatments and respective outcomes are and how something new is needed.
Posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 15:14:46
In reply to Re: SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this! » olysi79, posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2008, at 12:58:17
Phillipa,
I gained more weight on Zoloft than even Paxil....
I suspect it was for the following reasons
1)I was on too high a dose. Zoloft is potent
2) It doesn't agree with my body and hit other spots it shouldn't have.Everyone is different. For some people, SSRIs are like a vitamin per my PDOC... for others, they carry huge SE's.
I have OCD, panic attacks, type A personality stuff, etc... I choose carefully what I want to treat and how. I let some of the OCD stuff go by the wayside and use talk therapy for my personality as the predominant treatment because I am not willing to use high doses of drugs anymore unless in an emergency. I do use meds for anxiety/panic because I can't be walking around as a nervous wreck all day.
Mileage varies.
Posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 15:17:30
In reply to Re: SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this! » olysi79, posted by cactus on April 29, 2008, at 14:18:07
Are there other variables? I.e Other meds... dietary changes, hormones... it's almost like a controlled experiment... My brother and I didn't change our diets... we still eat the way we have, when we want to.. though one variable that has changed is appetite reduction, though only slightly. Another variable is activity levels, etc....
I'd keep on your doc about all this.
Posted by Molybdenum on April 29, 2008, at 19:21:29
In reply to Re: SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this! » cactus, posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 15:17:30
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Posted by cactus on April 30, 2008, at 0:08:02
In reply to Re: SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this! » cactus, posted by olysi79 on April 29, 2008, at 15:17:30
> Are there other variables? I.e Other meds... dietary changes, hormones... it's almost like a controlled experiment... My brother and I didn't change our diets... we still eat the way we have, when we want to.. though one variable that has changed is appetite reduction, though only slightly. Another variable is activity levels, etc....
> I'd keep on your doc about all this.Clonazepam was the only other drug, I was on 150mg of zoloft, then seroquel got added to the mix because I became a touch manic, maybe lowering the dose of zoloft would have been a better idea, but no, I was forced to take seroquel by my pdoc. Long story but I had no choice and he wouldn't let me lower the zoloft or raise my clonazepam. Dietary changes were minimal and exercise no different.
My GP is all over it, I fired my pdoc. I'm starting to wonder if I have some kind of permanent GI damage. I spend a lot of time on the loo. Colonoscopy is next on the list once to poo results come back. All blood work was totally clear.
Posted by olysi79 on May 3, 2008, at 10:27:21
In reply to Re: SSRI weight gain- You'll LOVE this! » olysi79, posted by cactus on April 30, 2008, at 0:08:02
150 MGS Zoloft is a higher dose from my understanding. I was on 125 MGS at one point and gained alot of weight. I'm going back to my Zoloft at 37.5 to 50 MGS... I don't like Lexapro... yuck, not for me... Celexa and Lexapro has never done the trick, yet I always dupe myself into trials with them as the alleged "lack of side effects" sounds so alluring. I like my Zoloft, but while I take it... no sweets.
Seroquel causes weight gain too. That medication (and Zyprexa) are known for weight gain. I don't know if clonazapam causes weight gain. Could that combination have aided your weight gain? Have you talked to your doctor about a diabetes type diet that will keep your blood sugar down? Perhaps medication changes would help. Another option is trying strength training exercises to feel better. I think when it comes to weight gain people tend to feel discouraged reading abotu it because you hear horror stories from people saying things like "I ran triathlons and still gained a bazillion pounds!" Again, tons of variables....
A little anecdote... I have a friend on Zyprexa who gained over 50 lbs... she lost over half of it and looks fabulous just by not eating processed foods. She cooks on her own, and eats healthy, but still enjoys herself.
If you are stable, then you ought to weigh out the pros and cons (you mentioned that you have BP). I don't think that you have permanent damage... your body is just adjusting to medication changes, etc.... the body is
incredibly resilient :) That's my opinion.
Cheers (I think they say that in the UK!)
> > Are there other variables? I.e Other meds... dietary changes, hormones... it's almost like a controlled experiment... My brother and I didn't change our diets... we still eat the way we have, when we want to.. though one variable that has changed is appetite reduction, though only slightly. Another variable is activity levels, etc....
> > I'd keep on your doc about all this.
>
> Clonazepam was the only other drug, I was on 150mg of zoloft, then seroquel got added to the mix because I became a touch manic, maybe lowering the dose of zoloft would have been a better idea, but no, I was forced to take seroquel by my pdoc. Long story but I had no choice and he wouldn't let me lower the zoloft or raise my clonazepam. Dietary changes were minimal and exercise no different.
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> My GP is all over it, I fired my pdoc. I'm starting to wonder if I have some kind of permanent GI damage. I spend a lot of time on the loo. Colonoscopy is next on the list once to poo results come back. All blood work was totally clear.
Posted by olysi79 on May 3, 2008, at 10:28:34
In reply to Re: SSRI weight gain-**FAT 4 SALE**'PRE-medicated', posted by Molybdenum on April 29, 2008, at 19:21:29
Sounds very lucrative.... There's so many choices to choose from in the marketplace!
Thansk for the humor :) We all need that.
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