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Posted by pwaysh on May 11, 2007, at 22:11:46
I'm pwaysh and have been diagnosed with IBS, migraines, borderline low thyroid, depression, and chronic insomnia with rebound daytime sleepiness. I worked overnight shifts for 5 years but got out about 2 years ago. The primary medications I'm on (now) are thyroid supplement,zoloft,ambien...just to name a few. Over the last 5 years of therapy I have tried numerous medications with little help and usually ended up treating side effects of all the medications instead of treating the real problem. So what is the real problem? I do not feel I am depressed. I end up on SSRI's to alleviate symptoms of IBS. The ambien does allow for a few hours of sleep but then I am chronically fatigued during daytime and have to (obtain) stimulants just to get through the day (i.e. just to reach a normal functioning level). Help-any suggestions???
Posted by Justherself54 on May 11, 2007, at 23:05:10
In reply to to many meds...any suggestions?, posted by pwaysh on May 11, 2007, at 22:11:46
I'm not familiar with Ambien..I have to maintain a pretty rigid sleep schedule otherwise I'll start mixed cycling. I also have IBS and take thyroid supplement. My nite meds are .05 clonazapam, 7.5 Zopiclone and 25 mg Serequel..no daytime sedation..serequel was my saviour for sleep..I was so scared to even try it initially, but am glad I did..
Posted by Sebastian on May 11, 2007, at 23:41:09
In reply to to many meds...any suggestions?, posted by pwaysh on May 11, 2007, at 22:11:46
Wellbutrin sr wakes me up.
Posted by blueberry1 on May 12, 2007, at 5:58:43
In reply to to many meds...any suggestions?, posted by pwaysh on May 11, 2007, at 22:11:46
Yeah. Switch doctors. Reduce meds with a long term goal of getting off them all. But only with the new doctor, not on your own.
The new doctor needs to be an integrative doctor. That is, one who is a Board Certified physician in addition to being Board Certified in naturopathy and/or homeopathy. They are highly trained in tests, symptoms, and causes that your regular doctor/psychiatrist has no clue about. Nearly all causes of depression are found somewhere else in the body other than the brain. The brain just happens to take the brunt of the punishment, in turn affecting every other part of your body and mood.
Find the cause and treat it. Requires an integrative physician. And if you don't have cash, arrange a loan to pay for tests. Insurance generally does not participate in integrative medicine. Go figure. The one thing that can really get you being the best you can be, and they sweep it behind the door, and instead focus on the things that cost a lot of money, a lot of continued worsening suffering, and will never fix the underlying cause.
A person failed all meds and ECT. The doctor commited them to a psych ward. But a new doctor asked what tests had been done. There was silence. As it turned out, a simple case of hypothyroidism and high glucose were addressed and in 2 months the person was living a new life of peace and joy.
Another person failed all meds and ECT. A test revealed she was allergic to wheat, even though she ate wheat every day of her life. After avoiding wheat for 2 weeks, she felt completely new. In a moment of weakness she ate pizza. Within a couple hours she was sobbing, crying, suicidal, and fully in the grips of deep depression. As the reaction wore off, she avoided wheat at all cost and lives a normal life.
Another person had neurotoxicity of unknown origin. Detox cleaned the body, special nurtrients, diet, and supplements kept the body clean. Symptoms disappeared.
Another person had intestinal parasites. Not only were they eating up vital nutrients so the body couldn't get them, but their waste products were entering the blood stream through weak intestinal lining. Cleaning out the parasites and restoring the integrity of the intestines with nutrients and supplements caused all symptoms to disappear.
There are so many miraculous stories. But you won't hear these at your doctor's office. They don't happen there. Because they don't look at the whole body and the dozen or so true physical causes of depression, anxiety, psychosis, fatigue, etc etc.
> I'm pwaysh and have been diagnosed with IBS, migraines, borderline low thyroid, depression, and chronic insomnia with rebound daytime sleepiness. I worked overnight shifts for 5 years but got out about 2 years ago. The primary medications I'm on (now) are thyroid supplement,zoloft,ambien...just to name a few. Over the last 5 years of therapy I have tried numerous medications with little help and usually ended up treating side effects of all the medications instead of treating the real problem. So what is the real problem? I do not feel I am depressed. I end up on SSRI's to alleviate symptoms of IBS. The ambien does allow for a few hours of sleep but then I am chronically fatigued during daytime and have to (obtain) stimulants just to get through the day (i.e. just to reach a normal functioning level). Help-any suggestions???
Posted by Phillipa on May 12, 2007, at 11:50:06
In reply to Re: to many meds...any suggestions?, posted by blueberry1 on May 12, 2007, at 5:58:43
Blueberry if you're seeing an ando and he has tested your thyroid and is adjusting according to test results, and diabetes also tested for and adreanal function and it's fine. What nutrients would you use? I hear the naturopaths are big in California. Love Phillipa
Posted by pwaysh on May 12, 2007, at 19:16:32
In reply to Re: to many meds...any suggestions?, posted by Justherself54 on May 11, 2007, at 23:05:10
Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately I have tried welbutrin on 3 separate occasions and each time I couldn't deal with side effects. Felt like I was in a fog or a dream state the entire time. I was on clonazepam at night for awhile but it left me with residual grogginess in the mornings and later came the nightmares and night sweats. I have been tested for food allergies amongst all other allergies- of course that's never definitive and can change. Some foods definitely trigger my IBS. My IBS is so bad at times that I have also been diagnosed with chronic vomiting and periodically take zofran to control it. I do work with animals and have dewormed myself on many occasions - just to be sure of no intestinal parasitism. I do see an acupuncturist and he seems to be my only savior at times. He significantly helps my IBS and migraines for a short time and I always leave his place feeling good and relaxed, but he doesn't seem to be able to alleviate the insomnia or the chronic daytime fatigue. I have to be very careful with supplements and homeopathy because of the chronic vomiting/IBS. I have tried a variety of natural remedies too but unfortunately I (literally) can't stomach them. Honestly I'm not trying to be difficult. I have just been struggling with these issues for so many years. I am open to trying just about anything at this point...so I gladly welcome any ideas. Thanks so much- pwaysh.
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