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Posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 14:35:35
I don't know that this has anything to do with the EMSAM but I am just having waves of guilt/shame type feelings. Not attached to anything in particular although if I have any little thing I feel guilty about it seems amplified.
I remeber having this feeling before when I was a little girl not quite 5 years old. I remeber laying on my back looking at the blue sky and feeeling this strange feeling that I could not identify. It just felt....icky and I wanted to get away from it. I went and hugged my mom and thats all I remember.
This feels different from just appropriate guilt or shame it feels all-encompassing, external, punishing and sinister.
I just want to cry. I feel unworthy.
This is very unusual for me and I am not sure what to make of it.
Any insight would be so helpful.
Posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 15:11:08
In reply to Sadness, guilt and remorse ? What is this? Why??, posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 14:35:35
Wow! I guess that little episode is over.
It lasted maybe 1 1/2 hrs and I finially did cry a little.
Maybe that was my version of a panic attack. I just felt utterly heartbroken. I'm better now just a little off kilter.
When I feel depressed it is more of a 'blah' type sensation, low energy and not emotional except irritable. I don't know what that was but I do not like it.
Is it that the EMSAM is really waking things up? Maybe my emotions have been blunted (very possibly) and they are returning and this feeling was just one of many I am unused to.
Is this normal?
My 12 yr old daughter saw me cry and asked what was wrong. I told her that I did not know I just felt sad for no reason. She says that that has happened to her before. I told her it does not happen to me very much at all.
I am confused and do not know what to make of this.
I will try not to worry about it and trust the process but, YUCK!
Thanks!
Kaye
Posted by Declan on April 29, 2007, at 15:37:21
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse-EMSAM?, posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 15:11:08
>I will try not to worry about it and trust the process but, YUCK!<
Hello Kaye
That's the best thing to do, I guess. You would have been more accepting of innapropriate pleasant feelings (it would be good to have more of those).
But feeling heartbroken (from whatever) is a feeling lovely (at least) in its openness and vulnerability, and is surely appropriate to something in this world of ours.
Can you not see it as some sort of spiritual insight?
Posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 15:53:01
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse-EMSAM? » KayeBaby, posted by Declan on April 29, 2007, at 15:37:21
Thank you, Declan.
This is exactly how I have decided to view it.
Nicely put!Kaye
Posted by Sebastian on April 29, 2007, at 16:03:45
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse-EMSAM?, posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 15:11:08
I've had a similar experiance. Think it has something to do with psychotic. When I was in a baby baskit, was looking into sky and at dad. Suddenly his face changed and was scary looking, then nothing and went away. Thats all I remember and was realy scary. I see this in dreams now, sometimes.
Posted by Declan on April 29, 2007, at 16:07:33
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse, posted by Sebastian on April 29, 2007, at 16:03:45
At any moment the world may come apart, the ground may fall from under our feet, and we may become undone.
These are reasonable fears that religion has existed to comfort.
Posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 16:17:14
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse, posted by Declan on April 29, 2007, at 16:07:33
You are right, Declan.
When faced with a problem that I can find no answer for-this is when I pray. I am also moved to pray in gratitude.
When I am suffering I long to be baptised.
Peace,
kaye
Posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 16:33:02
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse, posted by Sebastian on April 29, 2007, at 16:03:45
I remeber lying in my crib and looking out into the darkness. I was maybe 4yrs old.
I could see the air teeming with-I guess spirits.
Not like ghosts like writhing organisms with somewhat human faces.I was not afraid, only curious. I knew they could not touch me and that I was seeing them with my 'other eyes'
It is so strange to remember such thoughts that I had when I was so young. I do not believe this was psychotic. It was unblemished being for what it is worth. To my knowlege no one put these ideas in my head. I had no expectation of such things and no frame of reference but my own self.
I cannot imagine what this experience was or what it means because my mind has been so shaped by the world now that it is impossible for me to examine it meaningfully.Peace,
Kaye
Posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2007, at 19:56:40
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse -Sebastian, posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 16:33:02
My name is guilt. I must be better today. Let my husband alone, get a life, but helpless to do any. Just want to sleep get more tired daily. I think I may be dying. Seriously. Love Phillipa
Posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 21:01:44
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse -Sebastian » KayeBaby, posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2007, at 19:56:40
Oh Phillipa!
I know how that feels and it is awful!I wish you could get a new stratagy that you can believe in.
I still keep thinking about Lyrica for you.
It really did something for my sleep that I believe allowed me to heal so much.
I don't know how anything can work for us if we are not getting the deep sleep we need.
I'm thinking about you.
Kaye
Posted by nellie7 on April 30, 2007, at 14:14:54
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse » Phillipa, posted by KayeBaby on April 29, 2007, at 21:01:44
Hi Kaye,
I have had similar experiences while taking low-dose risperidone. Strange- because both drugs affect dopamine but supposedly have the opposite effect...
Nellie.
Posted by KayeBaby on April 30, 2007, at 19:21:46
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse » KayeBaby, posted by nellie7 on April 30, 2007, at 14:14:54
Hi Nellie.
It's yucky huh?
Do you have that feeling any other time?
I have not had it again(so far) today.
Thanks!
Kaye
Posted by nellie7 on May 1, 2007, at 13:58:44
In reply to Re: Sadness, guilt and remorse, posted by KayeBaby on April 30, 2007, at 19:21:46
Yes, it sure is yucky!I also get that way after sleepless nights but my guilt feelings are reduced due to taking celexa.
I'm glad you haven't had the feeling again today and hope you feel better.
Nellie.
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