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Posted by rjlockhart on March 13, 2007, at 0:38:17
I have realized lately, well i always been thinking, the first presciption i was put on was Ritilin, and that was the start this was in the 7th grade.
There are some people who live lives very happy with out antidepressants, stimulants, sedatives, anything. Why is this?
If i stopped all my medications which Is
Prozac 30mg
Zyprexa 2.5mg
Xanax 4 mg daily
Temazepam 30mg - PRN nightly in case i cant sleep.Wouldnt it be great not to have to but substances in you body and live, not having to know, oh i have to "re-dose" take more, well i mean, take a pill daily.
Wouldnt it be great really if we just didnt have these depression problems, drug problems, sleeping problems, i mean why cant life just be harmony. There is just so many problems we have to deal with, stress, sleeping, pain, and i mean to cope with it we use medication, or to help it or stablize to be normal.
I guess there that why therpy and medication are used alot.
But us human being we all make errors.
But really wouldnt it be great if we just had a harmonical cycle where wake up, deal with stress, and have our own antianxiety system in us.
Well im getting a little off..
But do you agree
This is an Open awnser.
Rj
Posted by foreigner on March 13, 2007, at 1:38:29
In reply to Why are some people happy life off medications?, posted by rjlockhart on March 13, 2007, at 0:38:17
Your message made me think again why. I remembered people who have big passion, who have big expectations and who can't limit these need more antidepresants and more drugs.We need limit our passion and expectations more then ever. History has never been such a big marketplace for people. There are people using antidepresants and drugs more than you think.And people can hurt themselves, their body for anything in this life without thinking . Humanity is nothing, impossible is nothing bla bla bla. Passion is everything....
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2007, at 2:53:17
In reply to Why are some people happy life off medications?, posted by rjlockhart on March 13, 2007, at 0:38:17
its all about the young life and adventures, because we all know that is propably the best time of our lives, taking risks
every day according to our god and philosopy should be when living healthy is a godgift for the lucky1nes out theRe, so as those things started with depression, means the good times are actually over,
because if a psychiatrist would care if you would be better, they wont put you on a high dose of risperdal the first time you complain you are ill, if that makes you a zombie it would make you aware that life is shorter then you think.. they wont put you on a happy med the first, second, third, even fourth time,
as my experience is , they like to put you on Risperidone, and make you feel bad, ill,
also when u have money problems, they can do whatever they want with you, maybe in like 200 years we have an advanced society with advanced health techniques but i doubt this...do think that this time is still experimental and between what is called medieval and futuristic, maybe in like 200 years people will say
mmm psychiatry at that time was to make people self aware about themselves and life,there wasnt such a thing as a magic pill for this and that, all we want is to feel great, and beleive me i once did felt great on seroquel but it lasted like a month and then i got psychotic again and decided not to take it anymore, but my life was changed and i could move on again, but hell yea it stopped working, i now took it a year and for nothing, my TD is back now and evil!
Posted by yxibow on March 13, 2007, at 3:26:32
In reply to its all about the young life and adventures, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2007, at 2:53:17
> its all about the young life and adventures, because we all know that is propably the best time of our lives, taking risks
>
> every day according to our god and philosopy should be when living healthy is a godgift for the lucky1nes out theRe, so as those things started with depression, means the good times are actually over,
>
> because if a psychiatrist would care if you would be better, they wont put you on a high dose of risperdal the first time you complain you are ill, if that makes you a zombie it would make you aware that life is shorter then you think.. they wont put you on a happy med the first, second, third, even fourth time,
>
> as my experience is , they like to put you on Risperidone, and make you feel bad, ill,
I don't think a good psychiatrist sits back with schadenfreude in their mind. Certainly not mine. That's positively evil. It is entirely possible you had substandard care when you first broke out with a psychosis, and that pains me to think that.
> also when u have money problems, they can do whatever they want with you, maybe in like 200 years we have an advanced society with advanced health techniques but i doubt this...
>
> do think that this time is still experimental and between what is called medieval and futuristic, maybe in like 200 years people will say
>
>
> mmm psychiatry at that time was to make people self aware about themselves and life,
>
> there wasnt such a thing as a magic pill for this and that, all we want is to feel great, and beleive me i once did felt great on seroquel but it lasted like a month and then i got psychotic again and decided not to take it anymore, but my life was changed and i could move on again, but hell yea it stopped working, i now took it a year and for nothing, my TD is back now and evil!
I would really get your TD analyzed still with an AIMS exam but I can't seem to persuade you. I'm always concerned about my own use of neuroleptics but I always ask for them, much more then they're needed. What appears to be TD isn't always 100% the case. Sometimes it is extremely bad EPS. I know, I have seen the video you had shown and it is painful, but I still think you need a specialist to deal with this. That's all I can say. I have said all what I can say actually.-- tidings
Posted by yxibow on March 13, 2007, at 3:45:31
In reply to Why are some people happy life off medications?, posted by rjlockhart on March 13, 2007, at 0:38:17
> I have realized lately, well i always been thinking, the first presciption i was put on was Ritilin, and that was the start this was in the 7th grade.
>
> There are some people who live lives very happy with out antidepressants, stimulants, sedatives, anything. Why is this?
If you took a really good look at the population and tried to determine who is so "normal" you'd debase yourself entirely. There are people out there that you probably know who you don't know are taking some sort of medication. We aren't born 100% perfect genetically, and it isn't our fault. Some people just scrape together and "tough it out" -- I feel for them. Others kid themselves into believing everything is right when they really need to do something to improve their lives -- people create a potemkin village, an impression of "normality." But what is really normal?
Thank goodness for some medications out there that can help our ails in the 21st century and I don't just mean psychoactive substances. We have a fairly high life expectancy -- one only has to look at Africa to see the ignored face of AIDS and countries with life expectancies as low as 31. We could have a higher one if the population wasn't getting large, and I don't mean that we've turned 300 million, but that weight gain has increased due to diabetes, and our pattern of eating. Japan leads with the highest life expectancy.
> If i stopped all my medications which Is
>
> Prozac 30mg
> Zyprexa 2.5mg
> Xanax 4 mg daily
> Temazepam 30mg - PRN nightly in case i cant sleep.
>
> Wouldnt it be great not to have to but substances in you body and live, not having to know, oh i have to "re-dose" take more, well i mean, take a pill daily.It would. I carry literally a case of medications, almost as a ball and chain, because if anything ever happened, I could have seizures from AED withdrawal and would have to explain to a hospital or another doctor just exactly what everything is for. I didn't ask for this current disorder but I know that I have a biological and genetic inheritance, mostly from my mothers' side, sadly her sister, well anyhow is not here... BPII.
> Wouldnt it be great really if we just didnt have these depression problems, drug problems, sleeping problems, i mean why cant life just be harmony. There is just so many problems we have to deal with, stress, sleeping, pain, and i mean to cope with it we use medication, or to help it or stablize to be normal.My father mystifies that it is a wonder that we as human beings "work" at all. I mean, a complex system put together. We have redundancy in some places -- two lungs, two kidneys, but only one heart and brain. The liver can regenerate fantastically. We can survive without certain parts of our organs surgically. But sometimes life throws a curveball, and tragically makes mistakes and there are all sorts of genetic disorders beyond depression and anxiety. The 21st century holds hope for these with genetic therapy, if we allow ourselves to harness stem cells. This of course is no end of controversy.
> I guess there that why therpy and medication are used alot.
>
> But us human being we all make errors.
>
> But really wouldnt it be great if we just had a harmonical cycle where wake up, deal with stress, and have our own antianxiety system in us.
I'm waiting... But while we wait, life moves on, and so everybody deals it in their own way. An acquaintance of mine lost his parents early on and deals with life in a sort of matter of fact way and that's how he views things, he has to take care of his siblings rather than the opposite. Its hard for him to completely understand my condition, so I sort have given up explaining. Actually my friend circle has kinda declined -- I need to move on in life but how do you move on when you're so challenged by visual cues in the environment?
> Well im getting a little off..I'm probably getting a little off too..
> But do you agree
>
> This is an Open awnser.
>
> Rj
Posted by Phillipa on March 13, 2007, at 12:42:29
In reply to Re: Why are some people happy life off medications » rjlockhart, posted by yxibow on March 13, 2007, at 3:45:31
I do remember when I took no meds and felt wonderful. Love Phillipa ps this was before the first panic attack age 24. But for 20 years inbetween a low dose of a benzo and I was happy.
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