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Posted by Phillipa on February 25, 2007, at 12:57:45
My pharmacist upset me yesterday. Said that the psychotropic meds don't really work that people have unrealistic expectations of life. I think this is wrong. Any comments? Love Phillipa as an example people do get better and leave babble don't they?
Posted by gardenergirl on February 25, 2007, at 14:46:01
In reply to Do Meds Really Help You? Pharmacist says don't wor, posted by Phillipa on February 25, 2007, at 12:57:45
Phillipa,
The only view on this that matters for you is your own experience. What do you think?namaste
gg
Posted by laima on February 25, 2007, at 21:04:40
In reply to Do Meds Really Help You? Pharmacist says don't wor, posted by Phillipa on February 25, 2007, at 12:57:45
Phillipa, your pharmacist's statement sounds very extreme and sweeping. Obviously psychotropic meds work- they've worked for me and for many other people here, for example. But it can be hard to find the right one, and no, they can't make life feel perfect if circumstances are truely out of order. No life is an endless string of perfect carefree days. So she has a kernel of truth there, I think- but nevertheless it sounds like her statement was much too strong and sweeping. Who knows- maybe she's tired on the job or feeling short and frustrated, or even jaded? I agree with gg- decide for yourself. And I'd add, just because the right med is hard to find, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And I'll reiterate- even with the right med- lifestyle and coping mechanisms must be attended to for best results. You may know this, but perhaps she's had plenty of other customers who don't know, so she just blurted that out.
Yes, I do think that as people feel better and get more involved in other spheres of their life they may easily leave babble- not even on purpose, but just from being swept up in other activities. Indeed, many posters here, including me, are searching for information, help, and support. So maybe not typical "patients". And yet- plenty do find end up finding relief, and many move on to other activities. Just a thought-and don't ever give up!
> My pharmacist upset me yesterday. Said that the psychotropic meds don't really work that people have unrealistic expectations of life. I think this is wrong. Any comments? Love Phillipa as an example people do get better and leave babble don't they?
Posted by yxibow on February 26, 2007, at 0:36:20
In reply to Do Meds Really Help You? Pharmacist says don't wor, posted by Phillipa on February 25, 2007, at 12:57:45
> My pharmacist upset me yesterday. Said that the psychotropic meds don't really work that people have unrealistic expectations of life. I think this is wrong. Any comments? Love Phillipa as an example people do get better and leave babble don't they?
That's a rather generalized statement about medications from your pharmacist. I'd be very suspicious about the background of such a pharmacist and not visit them for prescriptions but that's just my view.
A pharmacist is there to explain how medications work, to check drug interactions if they have knowledge of all your medications and warn you of problems and rarely to report abuse potential if they see red flag warnings like lots of C-II and C-III medications coming from the same doctor. And to be pleasant and ask how you are doing. And that's really it.
We've had so many discussions about whether psychotropic medications "work"; we've beaten dead horses, rhinoceroses, dragons, and other creatures defined under UN conventions about this subject.
You take out of life what you give it; life doesn't have expectations except that somehow most of all our organs work together to some degree and we manage as humans in a life cycle that has some defined parts and if you are lucky enough to live in a free society, defined parts and responsibilities as well.
A medication is a tool, psychotropic medications are only as good as what we can get out of them to better our lives. Bettering lives also requires hard work, and after five years I can tell you it definately is so.Do people leave babble ? Maybe quite so, who knows -- some people don't seem to have a defined disorder but post or lurk on here, some definately have a defined disorder, and some probably are in remission from one. A chemical inbalance is inherent yet will change over the course of life just as our body changes.
People come to babble for lots of reasons, a number of people come because as "consumers" (and that is the current NAMI term for a patient) don't have the best information or health care providers so they seek help from others who may have better situations. There are lots of walking wounded out there in the millions who suffer from depression; I forget if it was Time or Newsweek who recently published an article about men and depression -- there is a stigma about admitting to something that is somehow un-manly to have. These are the people who are not on babble -- they either are so well cured off that they don't feel the need to chat or kid themselves into thinking they can manage things themselves. And maybe some people can be their own psychiatrist. But that's a difficult proposal.
-- tidingsJay
Posted by polarbear206 on February 26, 2007, at 9:11:34
In reply to Do Meds Really Help You? Pharmacist says don't wor, posted by Phillipa on February 25, 2007, at 12:57:45
> My pharmacist upset me yesterday. Said that the psychotropic meds don't really work that people have unrealistic expectations of life. I think this is wrong. Any comments? Love Phillipa as an example people do get better and leave babble don't they?
Your pharmacist is totally out of line and in violation of the scope of his profession. He should be reported. I would go to a different pharmacy if I were you.Polarbear
Posted by Crazy Horse on February 27, 2007, at 10:05:45
In reply to Re: Do Meds Really Help You? Pharmacist says don't wor, posted by polarbear206 on February 26, 2007, at 9:11:34
> > My pharmacist upset me yesterday. Said that the psychotropic meds don't really work that people have unrealistic expectations of life. I think this is wrong. Any comments? Love Phillipa as an example people do get better and leave babble don't they?
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> Your pharmacist is totally out of line and in violation of the scope of his profession. He should be reported. I would go to a different pharmacy if I were you.
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> Polarbear
>Ditto
-Monte
Posted by bulldog2 on March 1, 2007, at 18:28:27
In reply to Re: Do Meds Really Help You? Pharmacist says don't wor, posted by Crazy Horse on February 27, 2007, at 10:05:45
I think the pharmacist is in the wrong occupation.
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