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Posted by Slinky on June 24, 2005, at 12:39:53
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » Slinky, posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 11:51:05
> I'm the opposite. My orgasms always return immediately when I stop an SSRI but my libido is still low.I don't know which is worse..when I'm horny I usually avoid doing anything about it cause I know I won't be completely satified.
When I had a partner I just enjoyed the g spot way : -)
Posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 13:59:41
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » ed_uk, posted by Slinky on June 24, 2005, at 12:39:53
>When I had a partner I just enjoyed the g spot way : -)
Oooooooooh slinky!
~Ed
Posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 14:12:18
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » Nezirov, posted by Slinky on June 24, 2005, at 12:37:10
How long does it take for your libido to come back usually? Have you ever tried any dopaminergic drugs like wellbutrin or dostinex to help with the weakened orgasms?
N
Posted by Slinky on June 24, 2005, at 14:40:56
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 14:12:18
> How long does it take for your libido to come back usually? Have you ever tried any dopaminergic drugs like wellbutrin or dostinex to help with the weakened orgasms?
>
My libido never goes away..even on SSRI's-except Celexa.
I tried wellbutrin it never really helped except give me hypocondria.
UK doctors don't really prescribe anythng dopaminergic...and my pdoc doen't consider crappy orgasms as an issue.Slinky
Posted by Slinky on June 24, 2005, at 14:45:22
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » Slinky, posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 13:59:41
Ed..I cannot compete with rainbowbrite : )
Posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 15:34:57
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » Nezirov, posted by Slinky on June 24, 2005, at 14:40:56
Hi Slinky!
>UK doctors don't really prescribe anythng dopaminergic........
I know! It's just serotonin, serotonin, serotonin in the UK :-(
>.....and my pdoc doen't consider crappy orgasms as an issue.
My pdocs have never taken my side effects seriously - even when I was sleeping all day on paroxetine they didn't seem to care.
~Ed
Posted by Nickengland on June 24, 2005, at 16:36:34
In reply to SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 3:02:35
I remember back in my SSRI days of prozac and ciprimil.
Prozac was probably the worst offender as I had problems sometimes reaching orgasm and it never really felt that good..but when I discontinued the drug (I was on for 6 months at time) my usual sex drive and orgasm returned.
Ciprimil had less sexual side effects, I remember my sex drive being overly active on that too as it often is like this due to the bipolar anyway.
I can certainly say I havent had any permanent damage that I know of...
Kind regards
Nick
Posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 17:01:29
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nickengland on June 24, 2005, at 16:36:34
Lucky you!!
Posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 17:22:05
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nickengland on June 24, 2005, at 16:36:34
Hi Nick!
SSRIs improve my orgasms but it takes a long time to have one! I don't have much libido though.......so I don't feel the need to have an orgasm LOL. I haven't had a single sexual thought all day!
~Ed
Posted by Phillipa on June 24, 2005, at 20:01:36
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » Nickengland, posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 17:22:05
Rather go to bed with a good book. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maximus on June 24, 2005, at 20:34:40
In reply to SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 3:02:35
And i'm very very sad for it :-( "Genital anaesthesia", talk about it :-( My libido has been gone for years and had never returned...
Posted by Sarah T. on June 24, 2005, at 23:00:43
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 11:39:42
I took Zoloft for about a year and a half. I got off of it in early 1999. Since I was on Zoloft, I have NEVER had either the sexual desire or the sexual ability that I had before SSRI's, even after augmentation with several dopaminergic/noradrenergic medicines. As I've mentioned previously, while on Zoloft, I also developed a mild movement disorder that manifested as "chewing" my cheek. Now, six years after stopping Zoloft, that problem has mostly subsided, but it persisted for several years, as if I were still on Zoloft. When I was still on Zoloft, the chewing was so bad, my inner cheek would bleed.
Posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 0:05:40
In reply to Re: You have confirmed my thoughts! » Nezirov, posted by Maximus on June 24, 2005, at 20:34:40
> And i'm very very sad for it :-( "Genital anaesthesia", talk about it :-( My libido has been gone for years and had never returned...
Maximus, sometimes the genital anaesthesia can be fixed with testosterone. This guy temporarily recovered from pretty severe (2 years
persistent) dysfuntion by getting a shot of testosterone. Sounds like
his doc wasn't too smart, though, and didn't keep him on it long enough.Have you ever had your testosterone levels checked or been on any form of TRT? Also consider joning our group on Yahoo. We're gonna do a class-action at some point.
N
Posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 0:08:43
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » Nezirov, posted by Sarah T. on June 24, 2005, at 23:00:43
Hi Sarah,
That's good that your chewing problems finally went away. If you like, please join our group on Yahoo. We are thinking about initiating a class-action lawsuit concerning persistent sexual dysfunction at some point.
Nezirov
Posted by Maximus on June 25, 2005, at 9:52:21
In reply to Re: You have confirmed my thoughts!, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 0:05:40
> Have you ever had your testosterone levels checked or been on any form of TRT? Also consider joning our group on Yahoo. We're gonna do a class-action at some point.
Thanks! Yes i should make a man of myself and ask a check-test for my Testos level. Enough is enough. Damn you SSRIs.
Bye.
Posted by Maximus on June 25, 2005, at 10:42:32
In reply to SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 3:02:35
I'm a pro-psychiatry, a pro-medication and i don't deny that SSRIs can be very helpful in some cases.
But the facts remain that they cause big damage to the sexuality and intimacy. Couples are wounded, singles are hopeless :-(
Now we have to boost ourselves with Testosterone. Shesssh, what is the next step?
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2005, at 10:44:06
In reply to SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nezirov on June 24, 2005, at 3:02:35
> SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects
If for any reason you feel you need to change your posting name, follow these steps:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#names
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2005, at 11:08:56
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 0:08:43
> We are thinking about initiating a class-action lawsuit
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding lawsuits to Psycho-Babble Social. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20050624/msgs/518639.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:04:18
In reply to Re: changing your name here » Nezirov, posted by Dr. Bob on June 25, 2005, at 10:44:06
Is thsi for me?
Posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:05:45
In reply to Re: They should called them Chemical Castrators » Nezirov, posted by Maximus on June 25, 2005, at 10:42:32
I'm much worse off for having taken celexa. IMO SSRIs and psychiatry can sometimes destroy lives rather than help.
Nezirov
Posted by Phillipa on June 25, 2005, at 18:01:53
In reply to Re: They should called them Chemical Castrators, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:05:45
Nezirov, Did you change your posting name without notifying Dr. Bob? If you did you need to follow his instructions. If not contact him anyway so he'll know he made a mistake?Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on June 25, 2005, at 18:08:25
In reply to Re: They should called them Chemical Castrators, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 14:05:45
"IMO SSRIs and psychiatry can sometimes destroy lives rather than help."
Wow, I have found somebody on my own brainwave.
But now I'm suck. Its very easy for me to rasie a flag.
Linkadge
Posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 18:12:08
In reply to Re: They should called them Chemical Castrators » Nezirov, posted by linkadge on June 25, 2005, at 18:08:25
I know what you mean. Once you've been tainted by these drugs it's very hard to turn back. The brain is just too complicated and the drugs too brutal in my opinion. You have my sympathy, and I hope thing swork out for you in the end.
Nezirov
Posted by linkadge on June 25, 2005, at 19:50:24
In reply to Re: They should called them Chemical Castrators, posted by Nezirov on June 25, 2005, at 18:12:08
You get to a point where you can't live without them, and they do nothing good for you when you're on them.
Linkadge
Posted by Jakeman on June 26, 2005, at 4:23:19
In reply to Re: SSRI Permanent or Persistent Sexual Side Effects » Nickengland, posted by ed_uk on June 24, 2005, at 17:22:05
> Hi Nick!
>
> SSRIs improve my orgasms but it takes a long time to have one! I don't have much libido though.......so I don't feel the need to have an orgasm LOL. I haven't had a single sexual thought all day!
>
> ~EdThen you add another drug(s) to the mix (such as wellbutrin, selegiline, viagra) to fix the sexaul problems the first drug caused. The second layer of drugs causes side effects, maybe high blood pressure. Then add in Inderal to fix that. That causes some depression then you must up your SSRI dosage. Then SSRI side effects increase. A circular cycle. Sorry to be such a downer..but I'm been through a similar scenerio.
btw, for me it's not the loss of libido, but erectile function. But then I'm taking wellbutrin.
~J
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