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Posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 1:17:29
Does anyone else get that feeling like they've stepped into an altenate dimention when they have taken a TCA ??
Linkadge
Posted by med_empowered on May 29, 2005, at 3:39:56
In reply to TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 1:17:29
When I started Tofranil-PM (basically Tofranil, just tweaked so it can all be taken at bedtime and last 24hrs--no daytime dosing) it was pretty sedating, especially at 75mgs. At 100mgs, I started to stay awake after dosing, and felt slightly "off". At 150mgs, when I stayed awake for a while after dosing, I felt "spaced out" and at the same time a bit agitated and irritable...fortunately, during the day I was OK. Which TCA are you taking? Do you do daytime dosing? From what I understand, after a while you can usually do all the TCA at bedtime without any ill effects--except for the sedation, of course.
Posted by SLS on May 29, 2005, at 11:58:40
In reply to TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 1:17:29
> Does anyone else get that feeling like they've stepped into an altenate dimention when they have taken a TCA ??
TCAs are very powerful drugs that can affect one's cognition and senses. These things happen early in treatment and tend to dissipate.
How long have you felt this way?
I would say that, compared to normothymia, depression is an altered state of consciousness.
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 15:23:51
In reply to Re: TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by SLS on May 29, 2005, at 11:58:40
I'm not so sure. Off antidepressants, I look around me, things look "real". Like the phone here is a solid object with weight and mass etc.
On clomipramine, things change. Everything I look at takes on a totally different form. Almost to the point that it looks like what I want it to look like.
The lampshades look like little men wearing hats, the railway crossing guards look like men with swords, the list goes on. I talked to my friend about this and he asked me if I was on deleriants!!! He said when he took deleriants that was exactly the experience he had. Everything he looked at kind of took on an altered form.
Because of their anticholinergics properties, (clomipramine in particular) it is entirely possable that these drugs do produce delerium in succeptable people. I just wanted to hear about other people's experiences, if they had any.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on May 29, 2005, at 15:30:40
In reply to Re: TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 15:23:51
> Because of their anticholinergics properties, (clomipramine in particular) it is entirely possable that these drugs do produce delerium in succeptable people
Excellent point.
I guess there is no way of knowing if it is a passing side effect without first going through it. I guess I hope for your sake that it would mitigate over time as some of the other anticholinergic side effects can.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on May 29, 2005, at 15:33:59
In reply to Re: TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by SLS on May 29, 2005, at 15:30:40
It might be informative to try taking a test dose of an anticholinergic drug like Cogentin, Akineton or Artane.
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 15:44:47
In reply to Re: TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by SLS on May 29, 2005, at 15:33:59
Yes, cogentin does produce some similar effects.
I stopped the drug, (not because of this) but rather because it was giving muscle jerks progressing to convulsions.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on May 29, 2005, at 17:56:30
In reply to Re: TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 15:44:47
I was once given ludiomil to try. I took it the first night and didn't really sleep just sort of in a haze. I was working as an Rn and had to work. I felt like I was in a haze. I flushed them down the toilet. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Declan on May 30, 2005, at 18:45:06
In reply to Re: TCA's - alternate dimention - anyone ??, posted by linkadge on May 29, 2005, at 15:23:51
Sounds awfully like an anticholinergic effect.
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