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Posted by Mags on July 30, 2004, at 16:29:48
My shrink is considering pushing me into hyperthyroidism. Has anyone else tried this?
I am hypothyroid right now and BPII. I am on Topomax and Lamictal. He has heard this has worked for some....my main problem is rapid cycling from manageable highs to major depressions.
Any thoughts?
Posted by tealady on July 30, 2004, at 16:56:41
In reply to forced into hyperthyroid, posted by Mags on July 30, 2004, at 16:29:48
It depends what he means by "forcing into hyper".
If he means only reducing your TSH to below 0.5(or 0.3)..but keeping your ft4, ft3 still in the normal range,(and you not being symptomatically hyper) then yes...otherwise no I haven't heard of it and would be worried. I'd like to know what he meant first and how he was planning to do it also.
Posted by SLS on July 30, 2004, at 17:19:13
In reply to forced into hyperthyroid, posted by Mags on July 30, 2004, at 16:29:48
Supratherapeutic (hyperthyroid) dosages of T4 (thyroxine) have been used to treat rapid-cycling bipolar disorder for quite a few years. It is not very common, though. Generally, the treatment depends upon the simultaneous use of an antidepressant or a mood stabilizer. If it works, you will want to research what effects the treatment will have on your body long term and how to compensate for them. Osteoporosis is usually a concern.
- Scott
Posted by tealady on July 30, 2004, at 17:36:50
In reply to Re: forced into hyperthyroid, posted by SLS on July 30, 2004, at 17:19:13
> Supratherapeutic (hyperthyroid) dosages of T4 (thyroxine) have been used to treat rapid-cycling bipolar disorder for quite a few years. It is not very common, though. Generally, the treatment depends upon the simultaneous use of an antidepressant or a mood stabilizer. If it works, you will want to research what effects the treatment will have on your body long term and how to compensate for them. Osteoporosis is usually a concern.
Thanks Scott, I can see now how it could work with the combo.
I hadn't heard of it used in that way before
Posted by Mags on July 30, 2004, at 21:03:29
In reply to Re: forced into hyperthyroid » SLS, posted by tealady on July 30, 2004, at 17:36:50
Thanks Scott, Yep, hypermetabolic doses of thyroid can cause osteo and raise BP and racing heart.....all things my doc mentioned...
I did find mention of it at Dr.Peter Brigham site and Dr. Ivan Goldberg's site as well...I was just hoping maybe someone here had maybe tried it.....
we will be working closely with my MD....we are grasping at straws here...I am rapid cycling big time and willing to try anything at this stage.It is one of the treatments that is mentioned quite frequently as a treatment for female BPII rapid cyclers...
http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/split/Rapidly-cycling-bipolar-pa.htmlThanks!
Posted by florence on August 1, 2004, at 18:26:20
In reply to forced into hyperthyroid, posted by Mags on July 30, 2004, at 16:29:48
just my 2 cents: have you read the research done by Dr Peter Whybrow at UCLA: his focus is mood disorders and thyroid, especially manic or rapid cycling....I think your doc may be on to something. IMHO he is "up" on the latest info.
Posted by Mags on August 1, 2004, at 20:09:09
In reply to Re: forced into hyperthyroid, posted by florence on August 1, 2004, at 18:26:20
Thank you Florence....I will check out your reference.....I appreciate the info...yes my doc is VERY current..and a wonderful doc...he has just been practicing a year...and LISTENS and discusses everything with me...and is always looking for the most current treatments...I am very lucky to have him!!!
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