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Posted by PoohBear on December 22, 2003, at 14:12:53
I have ADHD with co-morbid depression. For many years I have been plagued with two types of unwanted thoughts:
1. Suicidal
2. SexualMy PDoc explained that the suicidal thoughts were normal and natural for someone with a very depressed condition, especially since I told her that I would never dream of acting on them, but that the blackness was unwelcome.
The other area was with unwanted sexual thoughts. For most of my adult life, I have been similarly plagued by sexual thoughts/fantasizing that would seemingly appear out of nowhere. The thoughts would come so fast that I COULD NOT STOP THEM. Some would welcome this, but I have not done so. I have seen this sexual fantasizing as a waste of precious mental energy. I could mentally undress a woman in my mind and make love to her; the thoughts seemed unstoppable. I never told anyone because it was so embarrassing...
After starting Effexor XR, I noticed for the first time in my adolescent/adult memory, I CAN CONTROL MY THOUGHTS. Not only the suicidal, but the sexual. This is a HUGE breakthrough for me personally. It helps with my self esteem and sense of control. The Effexor also diminished my erectile and orgasm function, but adding Wellbutrin has counteracted this. I did notice however, that too much WB negated the thought control of the Effexor, so I take the absolute minimum I can to get the desired effect. (Which is what you're supposed to do with drugs anyhow...right?)
All this may sound strange to the ladies in the audience, but can some of you guys relate? Has anyone else benefited in the same way?
Don't get me wrong, I deeply enjoy sex, but only with my wife. I have been married for 22 years and have always sought to avoid adulterous relationships (and thoughts) because of what it could do to my marriage. I've stuggled mightily. Though I've been successful with the former, I've failed miserably with the later, with victory only with the use of a drug.
The two good male friends I've shared this with have been utterly amazed.
This could be a big help to others who are of a similar mind.
Anyone care to share their thoughts, especially PDocs?
TR
Posted by ian24 on December 22, 2003, at 16:16:37
In reply to Effexor Helped End Unwanted Thoughts!, posted by PoohBear on December 22, 2003, at 14:12:53
Dude ,I can so relate. When I quit drinking my ocd kicked up hard. Especially inappropriate sexual thought that flashed into my mind and made me feel guilty. Also thoughts that if I had a knife in hand I'd just have a flash vision of me slashing it at someone or at my wrist. I was afarid I would but never did. Then when i went on luvox and zanax it helped. Also, I found out that these thoughts do not mean i will act on them. To me that was the most relaieving experience with talk therapy and ocd.
Posted by brussell on December 22, 2003, at 21:15:13
In reply to Effexor Helped End Unwanted Thoughts!, posted by PoohBear on December 22, 2003, at 14:12:53
This is interesting.
I couldn't stand taking Effexor and the SSRIs for many reasons, but in part I quit these drugs because they killed my ability to fantasize sexually.
Normally I would urge you not to worry about the sexual fantasies. The male mind is hardwired to fantasize and thoughts are not actions. Discussing your concerns with a good therapist might be the best solution.
That said, I'm glad you are satisfied with Effexor.
Best Wishes.
Posted by PoohBear on December 24, 2003, at 14:04:08
In reply to Re: Effexor Helped End Unwanted Thoughts!, posted by brussell on December 22, 2003, at 21:15:13
Brussell:
I didn't mean to imply that I didn't want ANY sexual thoughts, I meant that I wanted to be rid of UNWANTED sexual thoughts. There's a big difference. I would prefer if those thoughts were reserved strictly for my beloved...
Take care and have a Merry Christmas,
TR
> This is interesting.
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> I couldn't stand taking Effexor and the SSRIs for many reasons, but in part I quit these drugs because they killed my ability to fantasize sexually.
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> Normally I would urge you not to worry about the sexual fantasies. The male mind is hardwired to fantasize and thoughts are not actions. Discussing your concerns with a good therapist might be the best solution.
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> That said, I'm glad you are satisfied with Effexor.
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> Best Wishes.
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