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Posted by TheOutsider on October 31, 2003, at 16:51:23
Hi I think I have some form of anergic depression/ADD inattentive type.
It sounds like parnate might really help.Also if any one who knows of any decent doctors in the UK I would be really happy to hear from you!
Posted by Robert Fairburn on October 31, 2003, at 17:01:43
In reply to Is Parnate available in UK? Please advise!, posted by TheOutsider on October 31, 2003, at 16:51:23
> Hi I think I have some form of anergic depression/ADD inattentive type.
> It sounds like parnate might really help.
>
> Also if any one who knows of any decent doctors in the UK I would be really happy to hear from you!
>
I live in the UK and I have to say the UK docs are the worse I have ever have the misfortune to meet. However you can get parnate in the UKRegards Robert
Posted by TheOutsider on November 1, 2003, at 15:06:36
In reply to Re: Is Parnate available in UK? Please advise!, posted by Robert Fairburn on October 31, 2003, at 17:01:43
Thanks for your replie!
At least its something to know parnates available!I assume you live in the UK?
If you do what has been your response to the awfull doctors here? Yes I know there bad I've already had a traumatic experience!
Any advice for a desperate penniless student would be really apreciated!
Posted by Robert Fairburn on November 1, 2003, at 17:48:51
In reply to Re: Do you have an answer?, posted by TheOutsider on November 1, 2003, at 15:06:36
My advise is keep changing docs untill you get one that will listen to you properly. Also dont take crap, be demanding for what you want because you will not get anything untill you ask.
Regards Robert
Posted by cybercafe on November 1, 2003, at 19:22:21
In reply to Re: Do you have an answer?, posted by TheOutsider on November 1, 2003, at 15:06:36
> Thanks for your replie!
> At least its something to know parnates available!
>
> I assume you live in the UK?
>
> If you do what has been your response to the awfull doctors here? Yes I know there bad I've already had a traumatic experience!1) went private
2) left country
Posted by ramsea on November 2, 2003, at 8:44:13
In reply to Re: Do you have an answer?, posted by cybercafe on November 1, 2003, at 19:22:21
Have lived in both US and UK for very long periods. Have had dangerously bad psychiatrists in BOTH countries. The handful of good ones have all been in the UK. I'm sure there are some good ones in the USA too, but I never saw them--and I've seen plenty. My opinion is that psychiatry needs to be more aligned with neurology and also needs to make clear to the world that jobs in this field aren't mostly about being a police force in medical costumes.
The worst experiences have come to me via mental health professionals who regard their patients as social misfits/deviants instead of people with a medical problem they didn't ask for. They use humiliation, massive oversedation, ridicule, arrogance, power games---and seem to feel the psychaitric ward is just another version of jail.
What really grinds me up about this is if they sincerely believe we are wasting their time, why do they stay in these jobs? What sort of strange being would qualify to be a mental health nurse/doctor and then go round belittling the very people that make up their patient group?
If they think we're all fakers, malingerers, people with personality problems but no illness, why don't they haul ass and practice medicine in a field they consider is legit? I've had it with mental health workers who don't even believe in the basic tenets of their own profession. It's obscene, anyone in those jobs who keeps looking their nose down on their patients should be fired. Immediately. OUT.
Posted by TheOutsider on November 2, 2003, at 12:15:08
In reply to Re: Do you have an answer?, posted by ramsea on November 2, 2003, at 8:44:13
Thanks for every ones responses!
You have really cheered me up! Its good to know there are people out there who can advise me.I would leave the country and go to US or Brazil for treatment if I could!
Unfortunatly I'm a poor student which really limmits my options.
I think I could afford to see One doctor privately, thats it!
I've been thinking about seeing Doctor Cosgrove.
I've read some of his articles and he seems to know what he's doing.If any one can name a doctor, or tell me anything about Dr Cosgrove I would really apreciat it.
PS. Apologies for spelling am seriesly Dyslexic!
Posted by NikkiT2 on November 2, 2003, at 14:23:08
In reply to Thanks for all your help! But I still need a doc!, posted by TheOutsider on November 2, 2003, at 12:15:08
OK, so there are waits.. but the doctors are the same the world over. I've seen some bad psychiatrists, but the one I have now is wonderful.. and he's a good old NHS one.
As for Mental Health professionals treating their clients badly.. well, I got off my bum and am trying to do something about this. I have become a "Service User Consultant".. I am involved with training staff in how it feels to be a service user... from GP receptionists, up to Psychiatric Consultants.. I'm a government committee with regards the new Personality Disorder training framework, and also one for "dishing" out the money coming from this in London. In a week I am spending the day with Mental Health in the community diploma students to give them the service user point of view.
Things are starting to change.. But now that the Government supports service user involvement at all levels, I hope things will be changing much faster. Its just been so under funded, and that isn't going to be changing.. But with people out there fighting for the change, I do believe things will get better for us.
Nikki
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