![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 11 of 11. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by polosdupe on October 23, 2003, at 10:27:12
Hi im from UK and after asking my doctor for many months he has finally started me on a course of nardil. The problem is i can only start out at 3 x 15 mg daily (45mg) and after approx 4 weeks this has to taper down to 15 daily or every other day. I need to try and persuade my doctor that i need 60-75 mg of nardil for my social anxiety although another problem is that nardil in the uk is treated for depression only and is very rarely used. They prefer to give out the ssris for things like that (ive tried almost every ssri under the sun as well as beta blockers and effexor and tryciclics and none of them have lited my anxiety levels significantly and any small gains i do get poop out to quickly)
So if anyone can help me with regards to proper urls to proof of nardil or klonopin as the best social phobia drug out there it would be much appreciated and anyone from uk who suffer social anxiety and are frustrated by their doctor feel free to contact me. My next post will cover my symptomsps anyone who has been able to get klonopin of their uk doctor deserves a gold medal and should also contact me:p
moolihiz@nildram.co.uk
Posted by ace on October 24, 2003, at 0:50:10
In reply to nardil and klonopin, posted by polosdupe on October 23, 2003, at 10:27:12
> Hi im from UK and after asking my doctor for many months he has finally started me on a course of nardil.
Tell him: 'ABOUT TIME!!'!
The problem is i can only start out at 3 x 15 mg daily (45mg) and after approx 4 weeks this has to taper down to 15 daily or every other day.
What? I really don't think that is going to do much at all. I suppose he read the standard monograph where it says people can be maintained on 15 every day or every other day. Not true. No clinical trials support this. In fact, most support the fact that you need between 60-90mg.
I need to try and persuade my doctor that i need 60-75 mg of nardil for my social anxiety although another problem is that nardil in the uk is treated for depression only and is very rarely used.Find another doctor maybe. Get educated about the pharmacology behind Nardil, and let the doc know this.
They prefer to give out the ssris for things like that
Suprise, suprise...
(ive tried almost every ssri under the sun as well as beta blockers and effexor and tryciclics and none of them have lited my anxiety levels significantly and any small gains i do get poop out to quickly)
> So if anyone can help me with regards to proper urls to proof of nardil or klonopin as the best social phobia drug out there it would be much appreciated and anyone from uk who suffer social anxiety and are frustrated by their doctor feel free to contact me. My next post will cover my symptomsI will get the urls to you.
> ps anyone who has been able to get klonopin of their uk doctor deserves a gold medal and should also contact me:p
> moolihiz@nildram.co.uk
>
>Take care buddy,
Ace.
Posted by ace on October 24, 2003, at 0:59:19
In reply to nardil and klonopin, posted by polosdupe on October 23, 2003, at 10:27:12
Hi,
Here are some sites...
NARDIL GOLD STANDARD FOR SOCIAL PHOBIA
Clinical Trials
http://www.socialfear.com/Treatment_outcome_of_SP_+_OCD.html
http://www.socialfear.com/phenelzine_vs_alprozolam_in_sp_html.
I also can get some scholarly papers which recommend Nardil dose 60mg+ - Let me know if you want 'em.
Cheers,
Ace.
Posted by ace on October 24, 2003, at 1:01:12
In reply to Re: nardil and klonopin » polosdupe, posted by ace on October 24, 2003, at 0:59:19
I made a second mistake with the second URL. But when you go to Social Fear.com scroll down and click on 'Nardil'. There awaits clinical trials.
Ace.
Posted by sean7 on October 24, 2003, at 3:04:36
In reply to nardil and klonopin, posted by polosdupe on October 23, 2003, at 10:27:12
Get off the nardil it's dangerous,MAOI's interact with just about every drug and food out there,look into it.
Posted by polosdupe on October 24, 2003, at 8:06:18
In reply to Re: nardil and klonopin » polosdupe, posted by ace on October 24, 2003, at 0:59:19
>Thanks Ace i was wondering if you could send some of those papers to my email address i need everything possible to convince my doctor of the benefits of nardil for SP. Any personal experiences you have had if you suffer form SP would be great too there seems so little of it in the UK.....
moolihiz@nildram.co.uk
Hi,
>
> Here are some sites...
>
> NARDIL GOLD STANDARD FOR SOCIAL PHOBIA
>
> http://www.socialfear.com
>
> Clinical Trials
>
> http://www.socialfear.com/Treatment_outcome_of_SP_+_OCD.html
>
> http://www.socialfear.com/phenelzine_vs_alprozolam_in_sp_html.
>
>
>
> I also can get some scholarly papers which recommend Nardil dose 60mg+ - Let me know if you want 'em.
>
> Cheers,
> Ace.
Posted by ace on October 25, 2003, at 0:13:34
In reply to Re: nardil and klonopin, posted by sean7 on October 24, 2003, at 3:04:36
> Get off the nardil it's dangerous,MAOI's interact with just about every drug and food out there,look into it.
That's absolutely not true. To say 'they interact with just about every drug and fout out there' is hyperbolical.
And also, there is plenty of drugs you CAN take with Nardil.
Nardil is a safe, wonderful medication. Long term use is very safe- only very rarely does one see hepatic problems or metabolic changes. Also, Nardil usually has a very benign withdrawal.
Ace.
Posted by Questionmark on October 30, 2003, at 6:44:48
In reply to Re: nardil and klonopin » sean7, posted by ace on October 25, 2003, at 0:13:34
> > Get off the nardil it's dangerous,MAOI's interact with just about every drug and food out there,look into it.
>
> That's absolutely not true. To say 'they interact with just about every drug and fout out there' is hyperbolical.
>
> And also, there is plenty of drugs you CAN take with Nardil.
>
> Nardil is a safe, wonderful medication. Long term use is very safe- only very rarely does one see hepatic problems or metabolic changes. Also, Nardil usually has a very benign withdrawal.
>
>
> Ace.Yes, that was totally hyperbolic/hyperbolical (?). Nardil is a very safe drug overall, if you follow the diet & drug restrictions, which is quite easy to do & to deal with.
i was surprised that you didn't go into a fit of expletive-filled disagreement, Ace, the way you act about Nardil. But that's good you didn't. It is such a shame that people are so ignorant about MAOIs & Nardil in particular though (esp dr.s).
i duno if i agree with you on that "benign withdrawal" thing though. i mean it may not be quite as bad as say Paxil but i still imagine that it's gonna be terrible. ok bye
Posted by ace on October 30, 2003, at 16:49:21
In reply to Re: nardil.., posted by Questionmark on October 30, 2003, at 6:44:48
> i was surprised that you didn't go into a fit of expletive-filled disagreement, Ace, the way you act about Nardil. But that's good you didn't.Lets just say I had to exercise a lot of self-control!!! The computer screen was going to get a punch!!!!
Ace.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 31, 2003, at 10:33:07
In reply to Re: nardil.. » Questionmark, posted by ace on October 30, 2003, at 16:49:21
Posted by ace on October 31, 2003, at 21:52:47
In reply to Re: thanks :-) (nm) » ace, posted by Dr. Bob on October 31, 2003, at 10:33:07
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Medication | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.