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Posted by babak on September 9, 2003, at 19:05:32
Is there anyone out there who has tried VNS? I am thinking of giving it a go as my last option.
I have had it; I have fought this monster for the last eighteen years. It has been an uphill struggle, mostly against NHS. I have had 8 years of psychoanalysis & psychotherapy and then Cognitive Behavioral Therapy which by the way I think it is only suitable for the intellectually challenged. I have lost everything starting with my family and money. I have been getting progressively worse over the years. In eighteen years there have been only two occasions when I haven’t been depressed; once for four glorious weeks after I started on Remeron and Effexor combination and two weeks after a course of ECT.The irony is that I used to be scared of suicide but since I started on Paxil six months ago, I no longer suffer from feelings of anxiety which I think used to induce my fear of suicide. Now suicide doesn't seems scary at all and I have lost everything there was to lose anyway. As for the rest I feel no joy, not even for my memories. All there is; is sadness, pain and frustration.
What a waste of eigtheen years
Posted by David Smith on September 9, 2003, at 23:50:20
In reply to Vagis Nerve Stimulation, posted by babak on September 9, 2003, at 19:05:32
"What a waste of eigtheen years"
You may not know it yet, but someone needs you
and those eighteen years of experience.
Posted by babak on September 10, 2003, at 15:03:21
In reply to Re: Vagis Nerve Stimulation » babak, posted by David Smith on September 9, 2003, at 23:50:20
I am sorry but what does that mean? What experience?
Without wishing to be rude, I have to say that your comment is nothing but yet another worthless platitude.
I have heard them all over and over in eight years of therapy.
I tried everything for if nothing else; as long as there was something that I hadn't tried it meant that there was still hope.
There are other drugs that I haven't tried but NHS disagrees and I can't afford to go private anymore.
I spent the limit of my last credit card on six sessions of BCT at £160.00 per session just to listen to a bunch of stuff you could read in any book on the subject. The thought process analysis involved in BCT is so simple and shallow that as I said only the intellectually challenged wouldn’t have thought of it before themselves and wouldn’t have seen it coming a mile off.
So all I do is to see some idiot in NHS every six weeks which is more like nine weeks because they always postpone appointments. Most of the time they come out with such rubbish that even their own colleague next door would disagree with them. When you try to tell them that they are making a mistake, they just about throw you out of their surgery.
I mean I have been depressed a lot longer than most of them have been psychiatrists. Some of them don’t even know that FDA is the US has a far more rigorous licensing regime that any country in Europe. They jsut don't give a damn.
Posted by David Smith on September 10, 2003, at 18:04:17
In reply to Re: Vagis Nerve Stimulation » David Smith, posted by babak on September 10, 2003, at 15:03:21
"Without wishing to be rude, I have to say that your comment is nothing but yet another worthless platitude."
You are may be right, the comment had no value on its own. Perhaps I posted it more for myself.
I am struggling with the question of whether to continue meds or seek other options such as rTMS, ECT, etc.
When you spoke of your experience with traditional treatment options it gave me insights
I might not have developed on my own.So THANK YOU and good luck with whatever decision you make.
Dave
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