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Posted by adamie19 on December 9, 2002, at 23:53:36
before paxil i was dealing with severe suicidal unipolar chemical depression, anxiety, all thanks to the most dangerous drug in the world... accutane. which has been known to ruin many people's lives as it screws up brain function perminently in rare cases. one dose of this med is equal to 40 times the daily recommended dose of vitamin A. is vitamin A in overdose toxic? do some research and yes it very much is.
anyway i had gone through like 16 medications and at the end of the hope train. hope was pretty much all gone. i went on paxil when my mental illness was at one of it's strongest period's ever. no one could live the way i did. yet i survived 7 months or whatever it was of the worst pain imaginable. then as suicide plans were being thought up. computer files being deleted. planning for the very near 'non' future... i started paxil.... things started to get a tiny bit better after just 1 week. on the 20 mg dose. (i could never afford anything more). tiny motivation to live arrived. more ability to wait out each torturous day. by the 3rd week things really began to change. it wasn't so extremely painful to live anymore... but the big pain was still there. then lets just say it turned 'okay' at 5 weeks or so. okay as in not suicidal and just mildly living... even if it meant just watching tv and having no hobbies due to still a big lack of any initiative, sense of enjoyment, or motivation. 7 weeks in (estimating...) it began to turn amazing. hobbies i began to have. i began to be able to hold interest in things. and heck 2 and a half months or so... i been FEELING GREAT. and this was like 2-3 months ago :).
now i am kicked out of my house. in between homes. not living on the streets but hey i will be fine. the thing is... no matter how bad things can get.. i am able to stay so positive and anxiety free on this paxil. it has been an amazing life saver. i am so full of life, energy, humor, PASSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and much more. i am not my 'normal' self as i was before the accutane wrecked my brain but.. it's as close as it gets at times. i still live a limited life but at least it's one which i can very much enjoy. despite sometimes still having tough down periods. it's hard to say really. if i had a higher dose heck maybe i'd feel amazing. but some things we cant all afford can we? it would be amazing... and my health is most important... but if i cant afford it then that's that. 160 a month for a higher paxil dose... canadian... is too much for me to handle. i'd be on the streets then.
but i am just here to say dont be discouraged by some of the negative paxil trash talk. some of it is quite silly. AD's work for people with mental illness. not people who are just 'sad' over something. it doesn't work that way. they are powerful meds intended for only certain people. gee it's hard for me to orgasm and sex doesnt feel nearly as good as it should BUT I DONT GIVE A care.... regarding that. my happiness is most important. and some act of sex that takes what 30 mins to 1 hour... is not someone's entire life. so stop complaining about sex u people. geeze. it's like as if u were born without a 'peni-' you'd kill yourself? or should i say it was bitten off by a vengeful ex? i certainly wouldnt care much. sex can be great and amazing even but u know what? so is being able to just be alive without a ton of worries on your mind. to just be able to lay in a bed and relax in the gentle softness. to be able to eat food and enjoy it due to having taste buds. people take things for granted far too much. cant have much fun with sex? learn to snuggle... it's the best and most intimate thing in the world. well see ya
Posted by Denise528 on December 10, 2002, at 12:02:06
In reply to paxil saved my life, posted by adamie19 on December 9, 2002, at 23:53:36
Hi Adamie,
In your last thread you had just started taking Adderall (or Ritalin) and were feeling great on that, are you still taking it?
Are you still taking it?
Denise
Posted by Krysti on December 10, 2002, at 19:29:00
In reply to paxil saved my life, posted by adamie19 on December 9, 2002, at 23:53:36
Hi adamie,
Glad you are doing so well : ) I don't know you or your history, but just wanted to chime in since I've been on Paxil before - for anxiety. Be careful you don't get "too happy". That happened to me when I was on it. Found out I was actually bi-polar and taking the Paxil without a mood stabilizer brought on mania.
I just wanted to let you know because I never knew a person could get "too happy" until it happened to me. Don't mean to sound like a downer or anything, I hope this is the med for you : )
Krysti
Posted by utopizen on December 10, 2002, at 20:40:42
In reply to paxil saved my life, posted by adamie19 on December 9, 2002, at 23:53:36
hey now- lay off the Accutane- it's the reason that I get to blame anxiety as the sole reason I lack a girlfriend, whereas before i had both anxiety and acne. Although I'm not sure how not having acne matters if I still can't have a girlfriend, though... mmm....
Posted by adamie19 on December 12, 2002, at 21:03:22
In reply to Re: paxil saved my life, posted by Denise528 on December 10, 2002, at 12:02:06
adrafinil was amazing... for 2 days. the 3rd day and 4th day i felt amazing but... i couldnt sleep hardly at all. mind so active. so motivated for this and that... i dunno what happened but after those days it all turned hellish. it's deffinetly worth a try. but as time went by adrafinil turned me to my previous state or worse. but it does work for many many people. afterwards i went through more med try's.... nothing worked much except paxil. it has been and still is amazing for me. not amazing but heck it's such a life changer. i actually have friends again, hobbies, willingness to spend money, emotions, generosity, passion, love, so much... me like :p> Hi Adamie,
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> In your last thread you had just started taking Adderall (or Ritalin) and were feeling great on that, are you still taking it?
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> Are you still taking it?
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> Denise
Posted by adamie19 on December 12, 2002, at 21:31:39
In reply to Re: paxil saved my life, posted by utopizen on December 10, 2002, at 20:40:42
accutane has killed 2000+ people around the world. just because it helps with acne doesnt mean it should be taken. would u take herion if it cleared up all acne? accutane is very toxic and dangerous. i used to have acne too... heck i still do but i just dont get self absorbed in it. i just dont worry about it. even before it wasnt a big issue but my mom felt it would be best to try accutane so i tried it. and i almost payed with my life. there are several websites with accutane horror stories and even actual proof of how toxic and dangerous accutane is. and links as to how it creates mental illness that often is irreversible. and accutane stays in your system for decades after taking... imagine such an effect on your body? do u want to be unhealthy just to get rid of some or... many zits? there is lazer therapy... and well... make up? it's not the end of the world to have lots of zits. yes it can be very bad but a lot of people live with it. or would u rather risk your life... because now they have more advanced warnings. u have to sign a big concent form now as it has been proven how dangerous the med is. 'this medication may cause depression, psychosis, suicidal ideation, suicide attempts, suicide.... etc etc etc'. it's all on the new american concent forms (shame on canada). meow. and guess what. even though accutane clears up acne... ir leaves u with perminently skin that is far more dry than usual. now like 1.5 years after accutane u know what is happening to me??? MY TOES are all losing their skin, here and there, my hands get realllyyyyyyyyyy dry sometimes.... they used to be so soft... now it's like... what the heck? and there are many more examples but it's not pleasant to talk about. and this all has been proven to be an after-side effect of accutane. do u really want your skin so dried up? acne can go away bu in the long run... u may get so wrinkly and dried up that by the time u are 50 u may look like you are 70? over exageration? perhaps but it's just a very serious issue. i am glad i still look good but my dry hands and toes (FLAKEY), and other issues... are just not good. and gee my zits aren't all that gone eighter. i am getting them over my body. like a few... but it's still something. and my face too. so yes paxil helped for a bit. but it's brain altering effects are devestating, and skin effects, liver, hair, night vision, etc etc. just dont risk it. it is onyl one of two medications in the whole world that require a medline book to be given along with it or whatever it is. something like that. simply because it is soooo dangerous. they say 'u should try accutane only if every other possible cream or medication hasn't worked'.... it's giving u hints... how dangerous it is. oh well back to eating dinner. shame on accutane for nearly killing me... and so many others. the big picture is what's important. i have no doubt it helps many people but at what cost? flakey dried up skin years later? it's all been proven... while others just have drier skin with no flakes but it's still something... and then there's mental side effects which some cant even believe is linked to accutane because they dont know how dangerous it is. but it has all been proven. well take care.
Posted by utopizen on December 12, 2002, at 23:13:22
In reply to Re: paxil saved my life » utopizen, posted by adamie19 on December 12, 2002, at 21:31:39
I already took the Accutane in two 5 month treatments (separated by 5 months). I've got just a tad bit of acne, very minor even if I don't do anything for weeks to it. I take Differin at night and benzyl 10% at morning and the acne is guaranteed to die away.
Yeah, that's me, Mr. Da-da-dangerous Accutane risker. Whew, glad I survived that one, I felt nervous there for a second. Oh wait, I've never been depressed for a 24 hour period in my life, guess that's why. Oh well.
Well, Accutane is available as a cream, you know. You should try benzyl peroxide and Retin-A or Differin (the latter if it's benign, so you can avoid Retin A drying your face up).
Cetaphil beats everything else out as a moistuerizer, but I'm sure you know that.
Posted by adamie19 on December 13, 2002, at 11:03:39
In reply to Re: paxil saved my life, posted by utopizen on December 12, 2002, at 23:13:22
do some research on accutane and maybe you'll realize how stupid your choice has been. it doesnt matter if you ever had depression. I NEVER HAVE. accutane can negatively effect anyone. if you knew the risks (unlike here in canada) then you're not fortunate intellectually if you tried accutane. a shame really. it takes one really selfish person.
and dont give me that accutane cream crap. there is no cream that is just like the med. it has been proven that one average dose of accutane is like taking 40 times the daily recommended dose of vitamin A. why do you thinkt he side effects are so severe? weaker bones, yellowing of skin, dried up chapping lips every minute... i despise people like you.
why dont u go try herion next? pathetic. goodbye
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2002, at 11:52:04
In reply to Re: paxil saved my life, posted by adamie19 on December 13, 2002, at 11:03:39
> Yeah, that's me, Mr. Da-da-dangerous Accutane risker. Whew, glad I survived that one, I felt nervous there for a second.
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> utopizen> do some research on accutane and maybe you'll realize how stupid your choice has been.
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> i despise people like you.
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> why dont u go try herion next? pathetic.
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> adamie19Please be sensitive to the feelings of others and don't be sarcastic, suggest that they harm themselves, or post anything that could lead them to feel accused or put down. Thanks,
Bob
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