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Posted by Peter on August 23, 2002, at 4:22:18
I'm really bugging out here. I read the following at http://www.drugtext.org/books/cappendijk/chapter08.htm :
1) "Amphetamines. Repeatedly taken amphetamine may induce, over the course of a few days, a state of "amphetamine psychosis" in men (Caplehorn, 1990) and animals (Balfour, 1990; Lillrank et al., 1991). Human amphetamine users report visual and auditory hallucinations, accompanied by paranoid symptoms. In both men and animals, aggressive behaviour may occur, and at the same time repetitive stereotyped behaviour could develop."
Man! I haven't had hallucinations, thank God, but if 'repetitive stereotyped behaviour' means what I think it means, I might have developed it: I've been obsessively looking things up on the web regarding medication, herbs, vitamins, etc..I've always thought that the web is rather addicting, but since I upped my dose from 10mg adderallXR to 25mg Aderrall IR, this compulsive behaviour has increased-I just sit and search and read for hours at a time-before I know it, it's 5a.m.! Am I experiencing a type of 'amphetamine-psychosis?' What doses are they talking about here anyway? I heard that there is no general overdose amount for amphetamines, and people have OD'd on as little as 2 mg!
And this whole 'sensitization' issue frightens me. What exactly does behavioural sensitization mean? Though I've read definitions, I'm having a great deal of trouble understanding them, probably due to my heightened state of agitation right now (and I already took my nightly 1.5mg klonopin and 750mg depakote doses!). Anyway, I read the following at http://www.unifr.ch/biochem/DREYER/drug_sensitization.htm :
"Remarkably though, a single exposure to amphetamine or morphine can be sufficient to induce behavioural, neurochemical and neuroendocrine sensitization as well, albeit that in the case of morphine, the behavioural sensitization observed is less pronounced than after repeated intermittent treatment. These data indicate that the first exposure to a drug of abuse does not go without lasting consequences." And we're told that long-term amphetamine use is safe for the brain??
I don't want to be scaring anyone out there, but I know there are enough extremely knowledgeable, friendly, and comforting members in this post, and I'm sure their answers or opinions would help assuage both my and any other stim-users' concerns that might have been evoked from these citings.
Peter
Posted by cybercafe on August 23, 2002, at 12:14:00
In reply to FREAKING OUT-HELP, posted by Peter on August 23, 2002, at 4:22:18
>developed it: I've been obsessively looking things up on the web regarding medication, herbs, compulsive behaviour has increased-I just sit and search and read for hours at a time-before I know it, it's 5a.m.! Am I experiencing a type
well if you are taking a stimulant for ADD symptoms so that you can concentrate better, it's probably a good sign that you find yourself able to concentrate better ;)
Posted by Hattree on August 23, 2002, at 23:47:29
In reply to Re: FREAKING OUT-HELP, posted by cybercafe on August 23, 2002, at 12:14:00
Not to panic. Sounds like you might want to take a day or two off and then restart at a lower dose.
Posted by Marie416 on August 26, 2002, at 12:42:55
In reply to Re: FREAKING OUT-HELP, posted by Hattree on August 23, 2002, at 23:47:29
Take a deep breath. Your mind is just playing tricks on you. I have in the past done the same thing in a desperate search to find what was wrong with me and get some help...I knew that if I could just find the answer... In the future respect your body and everything that you consume. Have faith, develop your patience and everything will work out fine.
Posted by hiba on August 27, 2002, at 0:26:25
In reply to Re: FREAKING OUT-HELP, posted by cybercafe on August 23, 2002, at 12:14:00
Dear Peter,
If your medicine use is legitimate, why should you worry over it? It is better to ask your doc than surf the net.
I have a friend who was doing well on ativan 4 mg a day. But one day he began to surf the net and saw some horror stories of benzo addiction and withdrawal. It was sufficient to make him panic and he suddenly quit the medication without any medical supervision. The poor chap is still suffering even after a year. Ativan was helping him tremendously and now with all of his heart he wants to go back to it.
So take care Peter. Ask your doc. That is the best option
HIBA
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