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Posted by ryan_s on July 10, 2000, at 16:19:03
i posted an article last week entitled "the river is running dry". thank all of you for your response.
hopefully someone has had a similar experience and can give me advice from what i am about to tell you. i have been on almost all ssris, remeron, wellbutrin, effexor, neurontin, and pschotics. currently i take adderall alone. this has been the only drug that has actually helped with my general well being. all of the others made me more depressed especially the ssris. adderal made me feel normal and not druged up with many side effects. yesterday i was on my porch and my roomate was complaining about one of his friends. usually i would think to myself "god all this kid does is complain, please do not talk to me anymore." now my thinking is starting to change. it seems like, and please share your positive experiences with medication, that the adderall made me more compassionate. when my roomate complained the other day i was thinking to myself, "this is interesting and beautiful to hear the point of view of a human being who is totally different than i." the adderal has shown me a glimpse of what it means to be happy and content with one self. its really amazing. now the next step for ryan_s. i would like to take another psychiatric drug that would add to the beneficial quality of adderal (ps any drug that effects serotonin makes me feel crazy). adderal has given me a glimpse of what it means to be happy but it seems like i still have a lot of work to do mentally. i am still shy and do not say alot in conversations. my self esteem has risen a little with adderal but can be improve. please give any advice you can squander up. good luck to all of you babblers and love to all.
ryan_s
Posted by Kath on July 10, 2000, at 16:39:54
In reply to ryan_s redemption, posted by ryan_s on July 10, 2000, at 16:19:03
Hi ryan_s - So good to hear from you again. I take Celexa 20 mg for depression. I didn't even know I was depressed but now after 6 weeks, I realize that I was anxious all the time!!! Celexa is an SSRI, so wouldn't work for you, but I wonder if you're having any councelling as well? The doc who suggested Celexa is doing councelling with me & he suggested that I keep a "feelings diary"...I bought a small day-book & 3 times a day I jot down the main feeling & a little about it, for example: "July 10 - 5:30-ish - anxiety - husband will be home in a half-hour or so & I feel a bit of shame & guilt because I've been on the internet for a long time & am concerned supper won't be ready."
Then if any jump out at me or seem to be recurrent, I put a star ** beside them. When I go to my appointment, I read out ones that seem important, & the doc talks about it, helping me realize why I feel like that, and if I'm distorting things - what has happened in my past that's fostered those feelings etc. I also have low self-esteem & working with this feelings diary is REALLY helping me.Best of luck.
Kath
Posted by CarolAnn on July 11, 2000, at 9:59:52
In reply to ryan_s redemption, posted by ryan_s on July 10, 2000, at 16:19:03
Ryan, I'm very glad that the Adderall is helping you. It has been very helpful to me also. Please keep us posted on your progress! love, CarolAnn
Posted by paul on July 11, 2000, at 18:13:07
In reply to ryan_s redemption, posted by ryan_s on July 10, 2000, at 16:19:03
instead of looking towards drugs to do it all consider therapy. i would recommend a well-trained MSW instead of a psychologist or even a psychiatrist. while the drug > have opened a door for you, there's no gaurantee that this will continue. of course i hope it does, but why not try talk therapy in addition? most people do BEST on both.
pcl
Posted by tricia001 on July 12, 2000, at 8:27:39
In reply to Re: ryan_s redemption, posted by paul on July 11, 2000, at 18:13:07
I completely agree with Paul on the therapy idea. I quit therapy after two years. While I'm still taking medication and I don't usually sink into my old daily routine of depression, I miss having someone to talk to. Sometimes it's a vicious cycle - I feel depressed, I have no one to talk to because they wouldn't understand, and then I begin to feel like I'm not normal, my self esteem plummets, and I'm left feeling more depressed. Having someone there to listen and get feedback from, whether it's a therapist or a friend whose been there, is worth more than I thought it was. This may help your self esteem and can become part of the "mental work" you have to do - something medicine alone can't give you. Best wishes ryan_s!
Posted by paul on July 12, 2000, at 23:09:28
In reply to Re: ryan_s redemption, posted by tricia001 on July 12, 2000, at 8:27:39
havent had the time to look into it what with packin and oitchin and patchin but i bet there are support groups for depressed people NOT run on the 12-step system where one might go to achieve all of what tricia is talking about. as i improve i find myself wanting this kind of interaction also. in many ways i'd consider it better than friends-you always know its there, nothing comes in the way of it, etc., no adjusting to another's stupid schedule so you can talk, etc. i get frustrated as hell waiting for some of these people i call friends to return calls.
pcl
Posted by KarenB on July 14, 2000, at 14:08:45
In reply to ryan_s redemption, posted by ryan_s on July 10, 2000, at 16:19:03
Hey Ryan,
I suggest 5 mg Zyprexa early evening - the lowest possible dose. Taken at bedtime, I am too groggy in the morning, so I take it a few hours prior.
Your symptoms sound very much like mine and for me, a neuroleptic combined with stimulant is the way to go. My current p-doc was reluctant at first to prescribe a neuroleptic but has since let me give this a try, to augment Adderall. Social anxiety, negative ruminating thoughts and mental noise are greatly relieved.
Glad to hear you're doing better:)
Karen
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