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Posted by kerry B on July 3, 2000, at 20:59:12
Hi Cam,
You seem to be the one that knows alot about Zyprexa so I thought I'd post you these questions.
I have been on it before as think I told you before, but for some reason went off it, not sure whether it was due to side effects or not now. Maybe I was afraid to continue with it after the horrible ones I had from risperdal (dystonia), not sure of the spelling.
Anyway, this-morning I had this really great guy from the health team come out and he has put me back on zyprexa as well as keeping on the 1,000 per day lithium. The zyprexa dose is 10mg per day.
Can you tell me what I have to expect from the zyprexa or the combination of the two?
If it is going to help me all the better. It seems alot of people are on it so it must be O.K. Did I read right that in the first week, it can give you EPS or TD? If that is so, one week isn't long considering how much in the long term it will help.
He also got straight into the root of my problems and why I possibly developed this illness, post traumatic shock syndrome, gosh, stuff that goes way, way back that I hadn't even thought about, so he is referring me to the special treatment clinic (sounds great) and hopefully my life will start to get back on track and I'll learn how to live with the illness and deal with all the other stuff and "clean the closet out".
So I am feeling a little more positive at the moment. I can't say it will be easy once therapy begins but for now, it's better.
Thanks for any advice you can give me and thanks for reading my babblings............Kerry
Posted by Cam W. on July 3, 2000, at 21:49:08
In reply to re:To Cam from kerry B, posted by kerry B on July 3, 2000, at 20:59:12
Kerry - Zyprexa and lithium are beginning to be used together more and more. Both have mood stabilizing properties, but both also have a propensity to cause weight gain. Control your diet now (stay away from junk food) to avoid excessive weight gain.
Zyprexa has a very low risk of causing EPS or TD (very unlike Risperdal) and it works. That is why so many risk weight gain and continue to take it even if they do gain weight. It really does help a lot of people think clearer.
Glad to hear that you are on track to remission. I hope this guy can continue to help. I really like the team approach to therapy as well. Good luck and keep us posted - Cam.
Posted by SLS on July 3, 2000, at 22:06:55
In reply to Re: re:To Cam from kerry B » kerry B, posted by Cam W. on July 3, 2000, at 21:49:08
Kerry - Good luck. I like the sound of this.
:-)
Cam - Have I ever told you how cool I think you are?
- Scott
> Kerry - Zyprexa and lithium are beginning to be used together more and more. Both have mood stabilizing properties, but both also have a propensity to cause weight gain. Control your diet now (stay away from junk food) to avoid excessive weight gain.
>
> Zyprexa has a very low risk of causing EPS or TD (very unlike Risperdal) and it works. That is why so many risk weight gain and continue to take it even if they do gain weight. It really does help a lot of people think clearer.
>
> Glad to hear that you are on track to remission. I hope this guy can continue to help. I really like the team approach to therapy as well. Good luck and keep us posted - Cam.
Posted by stjames on July 4, 2000, at 3:35:23
In reply to re:To Cam from kerry B, posted by kerry B on July 3, 2000, at 20:59:12
> He also got straight into the root of my problems and why I possibly developed this illness, post traumatic shock syndrome, gosh, stuff that goes way, way back that I hadn't even thought about, so he is referring me to the special treatment clinic (sounds great) and hopefully my life will start to get back on track and I'll learn how to live with the illness and deal with all the other stuff and "clean the closet out".
James here....
YEA !!!!! This sounds really good. I was really conserned that you were not getting regular treatment to better contral and get at the cause of your troubles. Your situation reminded me of a close friend who has the same condition which was caused by childhood abuse. She is doing great today, but in the 1980's needed meds like you are taking and once she delt with the past and put it to rest her thought returned to normal. She still has some mood problems which are well controled with AD's. I am sure you will do as well ! The fact that you are active, trying to find out all you can is a good sign.
While surfing I found a resource in you country, SANE Australia at http://home.vicnet.net.au/~sane/
Be sure to check out the "Essential Links" for more stuff in your neck of the woods.james
Posted by kerry B on July 4, 2000, at 5:06:42
In reply to Re: re:To Cam from kerry B » kerry B, posted by Cam W. on July 3, 2000, at 21:49:08
> Kerry - Zyprexa and lithium are beginning to be used together more and more. Both have mood stabilizing properties, but both also have a propensity to cause weight gain. Control your diet now (stay away from junk food) to avoid excessive weight gain.
>
> Zyprexa has a very low risk of causing EPS or TD (very unlike Risperdal) and it works. That is why so many risk weight gain and continue to take it even if they do gain weight. It really does help a lot of people think clearer.
>
> Glad to hear that you are on track to remission. I hope this guy can continue to help. I really like the team approach to therapy as well. Good luck and keep us posted - Cam.
Hi Cam,
Thanks for the info but not the weight gain stuff!!!!! I am a pizzaholic so now what am I going to do hahaha!
I do remember some meds I were on before did slam on the weight, maybe antidepressants? but I will watch the weight, it's every woman's nightmare!!!!
I took 5mg zyprexa today after the team guy left and after a few hours I was fast asleep, couldn't keep my eyes open, I suppose it does that until your system gets used to it?
I'm going to look great at the admin desk at work nodding off aren't I hahaha!
Oh well, if it's going to help me that's the consequence for a while anyway. I am alot brighter in spirit but still having moods but I guess I can't expect a miracle overnight.
Do you know how long until it actually starts working? A week or so?
Thanks again and happy 4th of July!!!!!!Kerry
Posted by kerry B on July 4, 2000, at 5:33:36
In reply to Re: re:To Cam from kerry B, posted by stjames on July 4, 2000, at 3:35:23
> > He also got straight into the root of my problems and why I possibly developed this illness, post traumatic shock syndrome, gosh, stuff that goes way, way back that I hadn't even thought about, so he is referring me to the special treatment clinic (sounds great) and hopefully my life will start to get back on track and I'll learn how to live with the illness and deal with all the other stuff and "clean the closet out".
>
> James here....
>
> YEA !!!!! This sounds really good. I was really conserned that you were not getting regular treatment to better contral and get at the cause of your troubles. Your situation reminded me of a close friend who has the same condition which was caused by childhood abuse. She is doing great today, but in the 1980's needed meds like you are taking and once she delt with the past and put it to rest her thought returned to normal. She still has some mood problems which are well controled with AD's. I am sure you will do as well ! The fact that you are active, trying to find out all you can is a good sign.
>
> While surfing I found a resource in you country, SANE Australia at http://home.vicnet.net.au/~sane/
> Be sure to check out the "Essential Links" for more stuff in your neck of the woods.
>
> james
Hi James,
Thanks for your post and the info about the SANE australia. I did try to find stuff here downunder on the net but was unable. Maybe looked in the wrong places. I'm not a very good surfer?
Yes, I like to look into things that will be of benefit, I like to find out all I can about everything to do with my illness and the likes and I'm especially glad I found you guys, don't know how I did but you have been wonderful.
I wasn't really getting the help I needed until today when I met this new team guy and he was so on the ball. He asked me things that no other doctor has ever bothered about and I suppose him being new to this job helped.
I feel a little more positive now which is good, still having trouble with moods but I guess I just have to try and work around them and maybe not take things so seriously as I have been doing all this time.
It amazes me why no other doc has suggested what this guy did today about the special treatment therapy? I have been suffering all this time and the answer is just a kilometre away,(hopefully), it amazes me. Maybe I had them baffled? Who knows, but I think I am finally getting somewhere which is great!!!!!
Thanks again James, you have been most helpful!!!
I will keep you all posted on the outcomes. It may be a week before I hear anyhting but at least I know this guy, Terry, amazing also, is out there doing something!Kerry
Posted by Cam W. on July 4, 2000, at 6:34:54
In reply to Re: re:To Cam from kerry B, posted by kerry B on July 4, 2000, at 5:06:42
Kerry - Yeah, for the first week or so the Zyprexa will make you tired and you will drag your butt, but your body does adjust. BTW - I'm Canadian; the 4th of July is just another day (actually it is my first day back at work •dread• that should be fireworks aplenty). - Cam
Posted by ChrisK on July 4, 2000, at 6:51:46
In reply to Re: To James from kerry B, posted by kerry B on July 4, 2000, at 5:33:36
Glad to hear that you are giving the Zyprexa another chance. It has really helped me a lot. I started noticing a difference within a few days of starting it. In my case the sedation went away after about two weeks. I take 7.5 mg and take it after dinner. This way I can get a good night's sleep without being groggy in the morning.
Good Luck and keep us posted,
Chris
Posted by kerry B on July 4, 2000, at 21:55:19
In reply to Re: re:To Cam from kerry B » kerry B, posted by Cam W. on July 4, 2000, at 6:34:54
> Kerry - Yeah, for the first week or so the Zyprexa will make you tired and you will drag your butt, but your body does adjust. BTW - I'm Canadian; the 4th of July is just another day (actually it is my first day back at work •dread• that should be fireworks aplenty). - Cam
Thanks Cam,
I have been "dragging my butt" a bit but am trying to fight the tiredness as I can't stand feeling this way. Got in and cleaned the place up which makes me feel better knowing that I can now rest a bit.
The 4th of July isn't a celebration for me either as my father passed away on that day three years ago, so I'll never forget that date!!!!
Oh well, better go and sit down for a while before the family get home. Even though I feel tired, I still suffer from the anger outbursts but I guess that will settle with time.
Also, the post trauma clinic phoned me today and my first appointment with them is on the 14th July, so I am looking forward to that.
Also, I might start a new thread saying "all post to me be put here" or something of that sort as I am having terrible trouble locating them with my memory the way it is, so I will do that if I can O.K?
thanks again,try and have a good time at work!Kerry
Posted by kerry B on July 5, 2000, at 0:04:52
In reply to kerry B, posted by ChrisK on July 4, 2000, at 6:51:46
> Glad to hear that you are giving the Zyprexa another chance. It has really helped me a lot. I started noticing a difference within a few days of starting it. In my case the sedation went away after about two weeks. I take 7.5 mg and take it after dinner. This way I can get a good night's sleep without being groggy in the morning.
>
> Good Luck and keep us posted,
> ChrisHi Chris,
Thanks for the positive reply. Yes, this tiredness is a bother as I don't like feeling this way but I'm trying hard to fight it off.
I am taking 5mg morning and 5 at night. I think if I took the whole 10 at night, I would never wake up in the morning.
I work every Sunday as an admin but have asked for a sicky this week as I don't think I'd look the part of a meet & greet person. My eyes are red and my pupils are so small, not a good look!!!! I have never had a day off in the 18 mths that I have been there so they didn't mind at all. Actually, they know my problems which helps.
Anyway thanks for your message. Shall keep you posted (it's all I seem to do lately is spend my time on here)!!!!!!Kerry
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