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Posted by Vesper on May 3, 2000, at 0:24:40
It had very little to do with Noa. Noa, I understand your position and do in fact agree with it. Moreover, it seems unfair of me to subject the rest of you to my apparently intractable problems. Per the guidelines of this board, I cannot be specific regarding my plans.
I thank you all for your concern, and apologize for my distracting presence here. No one can help me, I am convinced of that now. The issues involved are far too complex.
Again, I thank you all, and wish you well.
--Vesper
Posted by tina on May 3, 2000, at 9:06:48
In reply to Clarification of my goodbye, posted by Vesper on May 3, 2000, at 0:24:40
Maybe we can't help, we aren't doctors but we CAN listen. Stay.>
It had very little to do with Noa. Noa, I understand your position and do in fact agree with it. Moreover, it seems unfair of me to subject the rest of you to my apparently intractable problems. Per the guidelines of this board, I cannot be specific regarding my plans.
> I thank you all for your concern, and apologize for my distracting presence here. No one can help me, I am convinced of that now. The issues involved are far too complex.
> Again, I thank you all, and wish you well.
> --Vesper
Posted by dove on May 3, 2000, at 10:55:13
In reply to Re: Clarification of our intentions, posted by tina on May 3, 2000, at 9:06:48
If you must leave the board Vesper, please go low and slow. We care very much about your pain and struggle. If you don't want help then that is your choice, but *know* that you are not a distraction.
Vesper, you are a hurting and precious human being, who has every right to cry for help. The beast which attacks you may seem too complex to dissect, or far too intractable to melt, but help is out there, somewhere.
I know you've sought help, only to take off running when it approached. I know you've sought help and no one came and you were left alone and cold. You may have a 'plan' for fixing this 'state' of mind and spirit, but please consider really seeking, demanding help.
I mentioned in another post to you that you really need to get to that ER and *stay* there until you receive some help and compassion. You may think all you are is this 'problem', maybe it's all you can see from your unlit cellar, but Vesper, you are a lot more than just the bad feelings.
Your person and character have so many other facets, so many more qualities, please don't lose sight of those positives, they constitute your essence just as much, if not more, than the darkness.
You will remain in my prayers and thoughts Vesper. We humbly welcome your presence on this board, even if you're in a deep pit. Please allow someone to reach for your hand.
dove
Posted by Rockets on May 3, 2000, at 12:00:00
In reply to Re: Goodbye and many returns, posted by dove on May 3, 2000, at 10:55:43
Stay.. its your board too Vesper. Peace :).
Posted by tina on May 3, 2000, at 12:16:10
In reply to Stay, posted by Rockets on May 3, 2000, at 12:00:00
Vesper: You've been talking to the people on this board longer than I have but after just a week I feel as though I have a new family, supporters and people who finally understand what I'm going through. It's something else to know that all of these perfect strangers take the time to listen and often help me out. If you don't have anyone in your life that can do that for you I'm sorry but the simple fact that we are strangers means you don't have to be embarrassed or uncomfortable with posting here. You can talk and vent to your heart's content, there are a lot of us who'll listen, I promise you. Please don't give up on yourself. The fact that you are still here says that you have some purpose on this earth. You may not recognize that purpose right now but trust that you are meant to be here, perhaps even just to help us, through your wisdom and experience. You are valuable to us, please don't leave us.
;> Stay.. its your board too Vesper. Peace :).
Posted by gail on May 3, 2000, at 13:50:48
In reply to Re:stay vesper, posted by tina on May 3, 2000, at 12:16:10
> Vesper-
Not trying to push a religion but I went to the church this morning and lit a candle for you and will continue to do so until you see there is an answer for you. I believe in faith and there were people who had it for me when mine was gone. I am doing this as my only way to help. I love your soul and will continue keeping a candle lit for your healing. You have so much to offer, don't give up.
gail
Posted by KarenB on May 3, 2000, at 19:08:25
In reply to Re:stay vesper, posted by gail on May 3, 2000, at 13:50:48
Vesper,
I have never responded to you before but have read some of your posts and have felt your pain in the words you have written. I too have many times felt that there was no hope - no one who could possibly help me. Sometimes I still feel that way...but I am determined not to give up. An answer to my illness may be just around the next corner.
So many in the mental health field, as in life, are poorly equipped. It's kind of like the teachers we had in school. Did you have, in all your years of school, maybe one or two teachers who stand out from the many - who had a genuine gift, who truly cared and were effective at imparting to you their knowledge? Well, there are those in the mental health field who are gifted, knowledgeable and compassionate as well. They are rare but they are out there. BTW, you won't generally find them in an ER.
I pray that you'll hang on, that you won't give up on yourself. There are plenty of us here who won't give up on you either.
Stick around.
Karen
Posted by Janice on May 3, 2000, at 20:17:51
In reply to Clarification of my goodbye, posted by Vesper on May 3, 2000, at 0:24:40
Anytime
In any which way
with whatever intractable problems you have.
AlwaysJanice
Posted by shar on May 3, 2000, at 21:33:24
In reply to Clarification of my goodbye, posted by Vesper on May 3, 2000, at 0:24:40
Vesper:
I encourage you to go "onward through the fog" without harming yourself, or putting yourself in harm's way.
I am not religious, but I believe we are here for a reason, because life is so intertwined.
I may need you someday, others may need you. Please don't go.
Shar
Posted by bob on May 7, 2000, at 13:01:31
In reply to Re: Clarification of my goodbye, posted by shar on May 3, 2000, at 21:33:24
Safe journey, Vesper, in your outer and inner worlds. Hope to see you back here soon.
cheers,
bob
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