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Posted by Chris UK on February 20, 2000, at 18:54:55
I'm hoping someone can help me here with regards training in the US.
I will be finishing a BSc in Neuroscience within the next couple of years. Does anyone know if it would be possible to move to the US to become a psychiatrist/pyschopharmacologist. It's my life ambition as I've struggled big time over here with crap doctors and shrinks who don't know their job. I have made more progress by using this board and researching my crippling social phobia and depression, then convincing my shrink to follow my suggestions (all your suggestions). eg clonazepam has currently changed my life but it took a hell of a lot of persuading my doctors and shrink to prescribe it as it's not even licensed for anxiety over here, only epilepsy!
Any feedback is welcome and appreciated and thanks already for the progress I've already made. I'm not completely there yet (see other post) but I am loads better than I have ever been.
Many thanks.
Chris UK
Posted by Janet on February 20, 2000, at 20:46:48
In reply to Psychopharmacology/Neuroscience, posted by Chris UK on February 20, 2000, at 18:54:55
> I'm hoping someone can help me here with regards training in the US.
>
> I will be finishing a BSc in Neuroscience within the next couple of years. Does anyone know if it would be possible to move to the US to become a psychiatrist/pyschopharmacologist. It's my life ambition as I've struggled big time over here with crap doctors and shrinks who don't know their job. I have made more progress by using this board and researching my crippling social phobia and depression, then convincing my shrink to follow my suggestions (all your suggestions). eg clonazepam has currently changed my life but it took a hell of a lot of persuading my doctors and shrink to prescribe it as it's not even licensed for anxiety over here, only epilepsy!
>
> Any feedback is welcome and appreciated and thanks already for the progress I've already made. I'm not completely there yet (see other post) but I am loads better than I have ever been.
> Many thanks.
> Chris UKGood for you Chris. I like the attitude. My family has suffered so much at the hands of doctors in the U.K. Their ignorance is compounded by their arrogance and lack of compassion. Believe it or not I have had access to far superior doctors in Brazil, although I've had to pay for it. I sincerely wish you every success! Jan
Posted by Abby on February 20, 2000, at 20:59:16
In reply to Psychopharmacology/Neuroscience, posted by Chris UK on February 20, 2000, at 18:54:55
If you were a physician with years of experience, you would still have to spend a lot of time training as a resident. I don't know how they handle visiting world experts.
Medical school in the U.S. is an almost exclusively post graduate training.
(Boston University has a B.S./M.D. program) Itis very expensive and increasingly difficult to get in.
I believe that it requires 4 years of school plus further training when they start paying you a low salary.
I think that the 4th year is spent working on different rotations.Expect to budget about $45,000/yr for tuition and living expenses at a top ivy league school. Some place like Baylor College (an excellent school in Texas) would be a lot less.for tuition and living expenses. You have to take a long test of basic biology and chemistry called the MCAT which is usually given in the Spring and summer.
I'm sure that the schools would evaluate foreign credentials differently. In the States people get University degrees in History or English before training as doctors.These are the requirements for U.S. Students. At my school the average course load was 4 classes per semester the equivalent of 16 year-long courses.
1 year Biology
1 year chemistry
1 year organic chemistry
1 year physics
basic calculus.You could take the physics over a summer in an intensive course.
If you are an Oxbridge student, then they would look at your course differently.Good luck, though.
Abby
Posted by Cam W. on February 20, 2000, at 22:43:56
In reply to Re: Medical Training in the U.S., posted by Abby on February 20, 2000, at 20:59:16
> If you were a physician with years of experience, you would still have to spend a lot of time training as a resident. I don't know how they handle visiting world experts.
>
> Medical school in the U.S. is an almost exclusively post graduate training.
> (Boston University has a B.S./M.D. program) Itis very expensive and increasingly difficult to get in.
> I believe that it requires 4 years of school plus further training when they start paying you a low salary.
> I think that the 4th year is spent working on different rotations.
>
> Expect to budget about $45,000/yr for tuition and living expenses at a top ivy league school. Some place like Baylor College (an excellent school in Texas) would be a lot less.for tuition and living expenses. You have to take a long test of basic biology and chemistry called the MCAT which is usually given in the Spring and summer.
> I'm sure that the schools would evaluate foreign credentials differently. In the States people get University degrees in History or English before training as doctors.
>
> These are the requirements for U.S. Students. At my school the average course load was 4 classes per semester the equivalent of 16 year-long courses.
>
> 1 year Biology
> 1 year chemistry
> 1 year organic chemistry
> 1 year physics
> basic calculus.
>
> You could take the physics over a summer in an intensive course.
> If you are an Oxbridge student, then they would look at your course differently.
>
> Good luck, though.
>
> AbbyChris - For a well rounded education, you may want to take some courses in medical chemistry, and pharmacokinetics/pharmacoldynamics to be able to get a job ( outside of reaseach) in Canada, If you do make it in, do not forget the problems faced in the real world ( eg non-compliance, substance abuse, and chronic lying, to name a few. Good luck with your endeavors and hope to meet you soon. Sincerely - Cam W.
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