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Posted by jlynne on March 30, 2004, at 23:16:16
In reply to Re: . . .Trucker . . . » jlynne, posted by trucker on March 30, 2004, at 23:14:41
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Posted by Magdalena on March 30, 2004, at 23:19:40
In reply to Congrats Mag . . . » Magdalena, posted by LynneDa on March 30, 2004, at 17:04:55
thanks Lynne, thats very sweet of you to say so. Its just that his mom was very close to his ex and i can tell she is having issues about getting close to me, my bf however told me she will come around. His dad on the other hand is great with me, we talk about books and movies and its easygoing. i am just worried that his mom will never come around...i want her to like me but i dont want to seem too eager you know? oh well, thanks for the post though,you are very kind.
I hope your week is going well too, how are things with ya anyway?
Mag
Posted by trucker on March 30, 2004, at 23:21:30
In reply to Re: . . .Trucker . . . » trucker, posted by jlynne on March 30, 2004, at 23:16:16
i just did... hope i did it right..
trucker
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> Before you go . . . have you bookmarked this site so that you can find it again easily?
Posted by jlynne on March 30, 2004, at 23:23:20
In reply to Re: . . .Trucker . . . » jlynne, posted by trucker on March 30, 2004, at 23:21:30
. . . hope you get a good night's sleep; you need the rest. Talk to you tomorrow.
((((zzzzzzzzzzzzzz))))...jlynne
Posted by trucker on March 30, 2004, at 23:32:35
In reply to Good luck, Trucker . . ., posted by jlynne on March 30, 2004, at 23:23:20
sweet dreams back at ya... a good night sleep will be good for the weary old bod.
take care!
trucker
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> . . . hope you get a good night's sleep; you need the rest. Talk to you tomorrow.
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> ((((zzzzzzzzzzzzzz))))
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Posted by Magdalena on March 30, 2004, at 23:35:02
In reply to Magdalena, posted by jlynne on March 30, 2004, at 22:47:13
Hey Jlynne, :) i am doing alright, i went to the docs today to get a refill on my priscription and told him i wanted to up to 10mg. He said ok and so as of Monday i will start at 10mg...im really nervous but i know i need to.
Tonite my aunt had heart surgery(for a murmer) and apparently she was bleeding and her BP was over 200, but she kept saying no to the drugs so they didnt let her go. i had to take the day off tomorrow to go with my mom to TOronto, thats where the hospital is, we are going to stay there all day with her and hopefully we can take her home tomorrow evening.
So how are you doing? when you increased was it an obvious change from the lower dose? im just scared of all the s/e's again...ESP THE ANXIETY/PANIC, considering thats whats making me want to increase it seems silly that it makes it worse at first, but *sigh* its nessessaty.
Hope u have a great night and i hope your day goes well tomorrow, im still looking for those Jersey sheets;) maybe i will get some for my b-day:)..;) you never know.
Night, and sweet dreams
Magdalena
Posted by Magdalena on March 30, 2004, at 23:48:38
In reply to RE:: Hey Lynne, posted by mystic on March 30, 2004, at 19:16:43
im sorry you are feeling bad Mystic its really weird you know i go through phases where i think i am underweight then the next week i think i am a few pound too much, but lately i have gained a few pounds just like 2 or 3 but i feel i look fine, its like im not as concerned as before, but you never know in a few months....i also just started the bc pills and there is weight gain with that too so i dont know what to expect, im not tall at all so i hope i dont gain too much.(I'm 5'2)
hope u feel better, sometimes going for a walk helps esp if you get to meet people, sounds weird but it makes me feel better sometimes.:) [quick story, i met this old man today at the clinic and he was alone and talking to himself so i sat and talked with him for 20 minutes and it made my day, he was so sweet and he had old man humour, it was great]
anyway have a good sleep and i will catch up with all of you tomorrow.
Night
Mag
Posted by jlynne on March 31, 2004, at 1:07:09
In reply to Re: Magdalena » jlynne, posted by Magdalena on March 30, 2004, at 23:35:02
im still looking for those Jersey sheets;) maybe i will get some for my b-day:)..;) you never know.
>[did i tell you i got the sheets at Wal Mart? - - they're even softer if you rinse them in Downy!]
About my increase . . . the side effects were getting to be tolerable for me before I increased, but they came back after I went up. That was a couple weeks ago, and they are just now starting to get better again. I think, for me, the increase was pretty much the same as the beginning - it was kind of like starting over for me.
Your medicine is so different from mine, though, and how our bodies react is an individual thing. Trust your instincts and what you have already experienced on Paxil, so far. You will get through it, and in the end you will feel better. We all have to be patient for the meds to build up and do their thing.
I hope your aunt is ok. I will say a prayer for her tonight.
It has been good for me to get back to work. I work with the elderly, and I love what I do; it makes me feel like my life is worthwhile:~) And my co-workers are the best; my supervisor is like a big sister to me.
Which reminds me - I need to go to bed. I have a meeting first thing in the a.m.
Nighty-night:~) [more likely "good morning" by the time you read this!]
...jlynne
Posted by mystic on March 31, 2004, at 6:41:46
In reply to Re: Magdalena » Magdalena, posted by jlynne on March 31, 2004, at 1:07:09
Thanks for the posts...I'm feeling very bad today...Just not feeling myself...Going to try to get to work but all alone in the house and just feeling spacey anxious and bad...But hopefully this too shall pass...Hope you all have a great day!!!!!...Mag good luck with your increase I think it will do the trick...Mystic
Posted by want info on March 31, 2004, at 9:47:30
In reply to Mrs C., posted by sexylexy on March 30, 2004, at 22:18:16
hey lexy...how is the 20mg going? i am on my 4th day of it and feel pretty good but of course i don't want to get too excited about it now! hope you are well...let me know. emily
Posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 11:37:12
In reply to RE:: Hey Lynne, posted by mystic on March 30, 2004, at 17:58:27
Hi Mystic -
I'm sorry to hear your not feeling so hot. The old monthly can really bring you down, try to remember you'll feel better in a few days. I also think JLynne is right - you've been gearing up for the shower for so long, it's like this big let-down happens afterward. Are there any other projects on your horizon you can plan for? If not, just let yourself ride out this wave and know you will feel better soon. I've been 3 months on the 20 mg. and I really think it's taken this long before I can look back over the past couple of weeks and realize I've had more up times than down!!! I know what you mean about feeling outside your body, I still get like that from time to time, especially when I'm really tired and stressed.Hang in there sister & take good care of yourself! :-)
~ Lynne
Posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 11:48:46
In reply to RE:: Hey Lynne, posted by mystic on March 30, 2004, at 19:16:43
Mystic, Lexy and everyone:
I am just not sure about the whole weight gain thing. I've always been underweight, luckily - it's my genes. But then, I've never been 40 before either! I got married in July 2002, was at 128 (I'm 5'7"). Started Lex October 2003, was at about 130 - 133 (the myth is getting married makes you gain weight& it was true with me!). Went on 20 mg in Dec 2003 and am now hovering around 145 to 148. I've never weighed more than 140 in my life! It seems awfully unusual that I would gain 10+ lbs. in that short of time.So, go figure . . . is it being happily married finally (probably not, my husband was laid off, in grad school full time and still can't find a good job - we still have stresses). Is it that I'm cooking more since I have a family of 5? Maybe, but I only cook about 2 or 3 real meals a week & I'm busier than ever. I don't eat more or less junk, hardly ever eat fast food.
My conclusion after consulting with a couple of other threads on this site: SSRIs do effect metabolism and/or the "I'm full" signal, just as they are suppressing other things in our brain's chemistry. They do increase certain chemicals in your body that can cause fat cells to stick around more persistently. It has something to do with cortisol and the adrenal glands. Maybe it's thyroid related.
Sorry this was so long, but weight gain can be depressing and can make one feel tired too, so it's an important thing to watch when battling depression. Exercise and good diet aside, it is harder to take weight off when on an SSRI, I believe! But, it's not yet enough of a problem that I would trade weight loss for my sanity. My husband actually agrees with me there, surprisingly enough :-).
The main thing is, if you know it, you can guard against it - I didn't realize it could happen so didn't work as hard to combat it. Now I will - treadmill's been great!
~ Lynne
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Hey Lynne do you think that the weight gain is from your meds???...do you think the more you increased the more weight you gained and the harder it is to get off??..has anyone been having any weights issues???...I feel like poop tonight not sure just really foggy this really stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Mystic
Posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 11:51:50
In reply to RE:: PS, posted by mystic on March 30, 2004, at 19:22:02
Oh, Mystic, I can relate. My concentration & memory are not as good as I would like. But I think it's cuz I'm so tired all the time from insomnia. At the beginning, it was due to the fogginess the med brought on. I think that will go away. I started taking extra B vitamin and fish oil (essential fatty acids) supplements and I think that helped my mental state!
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PS...And I cannot concentrate or remember anything....Mystic
Posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 12:01:58
In reply to RE:: Hey Lynne, posted by sexylexy on March 30, 2004, at 22:16:34
Thanks Lexy -
I plan on trying to fit in a little fun & shopping! I can't believe I missed so much last week. I don't think I was able to read all the posts!It sounds like things are getting busier for you with school . . . down-hill slide toward the end of the semester. Remember to breathe, take your vitamins, drink lots of water and keep your priorities intact - this is a unique time in your life where you need to be very selfish about your time and energy in order to do your best :-)
Your posts have sounded more clear lately, it sounds like you are feeling better?!?! I'm so proud of how far you've come, especially with the school stress hanging over you!!!! You are truly a unique individual and will be a great therapist!
~ Lynne
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LynneDa,
> I missed you so much! Glad your back, wish you were going to get stay around for longer!! Have a great time in Nashville, I have a lot of friends there. If you get time go shopping on 21st street, Posh is cute. Veragio has pretty good sushi and great drinks, their Key Lime Pie Martini is to die for!!! Have fun, come back soon!
> God Bless,
> Lexy
Posted by want info on March 31, 2004, at 12:04:37
In reply to RE:: Hey Lynne - weight gain (long!) » mystic, posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 11:48:46
hi lynne! welcome back.
did you say you'd been on 20mg for 3 months (i have trouble keeping track of everyone's dosages!)?? were you on 10 before that? and how long did it take before you felt "normal" again? any info would help...thanks! emily
Posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 12:26:03
In reply to lynneda, posted by want info on March 31, 2004, at 12:04:37
Hi Emily, thanks!
Yes, I was on 10mg for 10 weeks, now 20 mgs for 3 months. I would say I am just now feeling more normal BUT... I have had insomnia that is just finally starting to abate. So, it is hard to use me as an example. When you are tired, everything seems worse and I was crankier than normal!!!
I would say, though, that at the 10 week mark I really felt myself being able to give to other people again (outside my family) which meant my emotional energy reservoir was being filled up again . . . which means the Lex was really working! That was a big sign. Also, I yell at my daughter & husband for no reason less frequently - this was a big bad thing that my depression caused and I am feeling in control of those emotions again.
I would start to look for marked improvements at the 8 week mark. Keep a journal. Sometimes it is so hard to see progress! Hang in there! You are getting better!!
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hi lynne! welcome back.
> did you say you'd been on 20mg for 3 months (i have trouble keeping track of everyone's dosages!)?? were you on 10 before that? and how long did it take before you felt "normal" again? any info would help...thanks! emily
Posted by want info on March 31, 2004, at 12:49:50
In reply to Re: lynneda » want info, posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 12:26:03
hi lynne! i began lex on feb 4, so i am at about 8 weeks now. i was on 10mg for 6, 15 for 2 or so, and just started 20 a few days ago. i also take .25 xanax twice a day. i am feeling a little better i believe...but every time i have an anxiety attack (which i still do although they are less severe than before...i take lex for anxiety alone, not depression) i feel like it's such a major setback that this med will never work for me.
i know ive only been on 20 for 3 days and im hoping that this will be the dose for me. i was on paxil for 8 years and it worked wonders...so i know that i am capable of responding to these meds!
do you take anything at night to sleep? my anxiety can seem unbearable if i don't sleep enough...E
Posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 13:04:50
In reply to Re: lynneda » LynneDa, posted by want info on March 31, 2004, at 12:49:50
Hi Em -
I hope the 20mg of Lex does the trick for you! Why did you quit the Paxil? I've heard lots of people didn't like it, but took it years ago cuz it was the only thing out there.For sleep, I took Melatonin til it stopped working, then tried Benadryl, Midol PMS, allergy meds - anything to help me sleep! Finally called p-doc after about 16 weeks total of bad sleep! He gave me Ambien but I'm so scared of getting addicted to it, I only took it for 8 nights. Then I had horrible withdrawal-like symptoms for 2 days/nights (high anxiety, NO sleep at all, jittery, weird thoughts, etc).
A week or so later, after more lack of sleep, I cut the 10mg tablet into thirds for a few nights and I still felt groggy the next day! But, I think it may have nudged me out of my bad pattern because now the 3mg Melatonin is working again. I need to cut that in half or buy the 1 mg, cuz I am again groggy during the day - til about 2pm, even when I take it as early as 8pm!
Anyway, that's my sleep story (or lack of!). I can always fall asleep. It's staying asleep that's been my problem.
Good luck with the anxiety attacks and try not to let them discourage you! If they are shorter and less severe than in the past, you are improving, right?
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hi lynne! i began lex on feb 4, so i am at about 8 weeks now. i was on 10mg for 6, 15 for 2 or so, and just started 20 a few days ago. i also take .25 xanax twice a day. i am feeling a little better i believe...but every time i have an anxiety attack (which i still do although they are less severe than before...i take lex for anxiety alone, not depression) i feel like it's such a major setback that this med will never work for me.
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> i know ive only been on 20 for 3 days and im hoping that this will be the dose for me. i was on paxil for 8 years and it worked wonders...so i know that i am capable of responding to these meds!
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> do you take anything at night to sleep? my anxiety can seem unbearable if i don't sleep enough...E
Posted by Gator on March 31, 2004, at 16:33:02
In reply to Re: lynneda » want info, posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 13:04:50
Lynne,
Hi! Good to see you back. Remember when we were talking about the Melatonin for sleep? I had to stop taking it because I was wanting (and doing)to sleep ALL the time and I was getting very cranky. I stopped and it took a couple of days to feel better.
On another note...my dr. upped me to 15mgs and when I'm ready to 20mgs. Wish me luck...
Take Care!
Gator
Posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 16:42:26
In reply to Re: lynneda, posted by Gator on March 31, 2004, at 16:33:02
Hi Gator -
Hmmm . . . I wonder if that's the effect Melatonin's having on me, like a backlash from taking it so often? It doesn't seem like I wake up til about 2 in the afternoon (even tho I'm at work and semi-functioning!). I literally could keel over on my desk and go into a deep sleep before lunch time! Although I've had insomnia, even at my most sleep-deprived I haven't felt like that. I am going to cut the 3mg in half tonight and see if that helps!I hope the 15 mg works for you, let us know how that's going! It seems like a very individual thing, whether 15 or 20 works best. I went to 20 and didn't really have many s/e's reoccur. I think it is working to it's max ability now, after 3 months on 20.
Good luck :-)
~ Lynne
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Lynne,
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> Hi! Good to see you back. Remember when we were talking about the Melatonin for sleep? I had to stop taking it because I was wanting (and doing)to sleep ALL the time and I was getting very cranky. I stopped and it took a couple of days to feel better.
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> On another note...my dr. upped me to 15mgs and when I'm ready to 20mgs. Wish me luck...
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> Take Care!
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> Gator
Posted by mystic on March 31, 2004, at 18:33:29
In reply to Redirected Lexaproers, posted by jlynne on March 13, 2004, at 1:31:16
Hey everyone..thanks for the posts it is so exhausting and can only write one post...I want to help everyone and give my feedback but it is just too hard the last couple of days...I feel hopeless and just very anxious...I am going to go up to 15mgs when I get my head straight enough to do it..with my med phobia that makes life difficult...I read other posts and see people just increasing and it isnt that hard for some to make that decision...Obviously because they realize it is going to hopefully make them feel better...But for me I guess I just want to torture myself a little longer...EM I"m soooo happy that you are feeling better and we are at the same time on this med..and I do hope to catch up to you soon...you sound so good and I'm sooo proud of you...
Lexy you are the bestest you are so helpful with your posts and I reinterate what someone else has said you my friend are going to make an AWSOME THERAPIST...wish you lived closer!!!!...Mags I hope you are doing good and you will see the dr soon and will increase also...K your the best as always your posts are wonderful..Lynne your posts are the best also you are all are so caring and just contribute so much..Jlynne I hope that you are doing well also and thanks for the posts.. It is funny how each and every one of you has something different to offer and are so quick to respond and help..I thank you for that!!!!!..And if I forgot to mention anyone..I'm on lex and that is my excuse!!!
I do e-mail with Mrs C and Ali and they are god sends as you all are...I wish that I could be more help with everyone but I will get back there again I hope...Everyone take care and thanks for the posts....Mystic
Posted by jlynne on March 31, 2004, at 20:35:16
In reply to RE:: sorry think I posted on the wrong board, posted by mystic on March 31, 2004, at 18:33:29
>...I feel hopeless and just very anxious...I am going to go up to 15mgs when I get my head straight enough to do it..
Mystic, that sounds like me right before I increased to 15mg. The increase helped me . . . now I'm just waiting for the s/e's to abate some more before I go to 20mg, but if I were feeling like you do now, I would increase now. Just my thoughts - no pressure.
Hope you feel better soon.
((((HUGS))))
...jlynne
Posted by jlynne on March 31, 2004, at 21:27:34
In reply to RE:: Hey Lynne - weight gain (long!) » mystic, posted by LynneDa on March 31, 2004, at 11:48:46
Lynne, I hate to bring this up, but I started gaining weight when I was around 40 - - found out it was menopause! Have you had your hormones checked?? [just one possibility] I started losing weight within a month after I started HRT.
...jlynne
Posted by jlynne on March 31, 2004, at 21:50:00
In reply to Re: Good luck, Trucker . . . » jlynne, posted by trucker on March 30, 2004, at 23:32:35
Hey, Trucker . . . how you feelin' tonight? Better, I hope.
Did you mention what it is that you haul? My brother used to drive long-haul, but now he hauls logs. He's a great big guy, but his wife is itty-bitty. He used to beat up on his previous wives, but this little slip of a woman stands right up to him, and they get along just great.
Hope you're having a nice, peaceful evening;~)
((((oxygen))))
...jlynne
Posted by trucker on March 31, 2004, at 22:49:36
In reply to Trucker, posted by jlynne on March 31, 2004, at 21:50:00
i have hauled hazardous materials, bombs, beer, produce, you name it i've hauled it one time or another. tonight is better, body still aches from being sick i guess and the change in weather. after ya been broke up as much as i have ya notice the weather more. by the aches!!!
i actually made a cozy fleece sheet set with calico pillow slips today. i wa able to be creative. once i feel my oats again i can start striping the rest of the cupbards so i can finish them of soon. everytime i am home sick i try to do 1/4 of the cupbards. i have 1/4 to go and 1/4 i have to do over. then we can put the floor down. nothing like a torn up house to put the icing on the cake with depression/anxiety. i have been working on this for a year.
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> Hey, Trucker . . . how you feelin' tonight? Better, I hope.
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> Did you mention what it is that you haul? My brother used to drive long-haul, but now he hauls logs. He's a great big guy, but his wife is itty-bitty. He used to beat up on his previous wives, but this little slip of a woman stands right up to him, and they get along just great.
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> Hope you're having a nice, peaceful evening;~)
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> ((((oxygen))))
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> ...jlynne
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