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Posted by peace123 on March 23, 2004, at 5:05:33
In reply to DR. BOB and friends, posted by SandyWeb on March 22, 2004, at 22:41:21
sandy,
It is good to hear you are fine. :)
communicating by just written word, can often lead to a wrong conclusion. Because in this form of communication you don't have the visual physical clues you get when talking directly to someone. ( I personally know this because last week I wrote a memo at work and others read it as sarcastic.. when that was not my intent..written communication it indeed tricky)
I am not defending anyones actions, but it is always better to err on the side of caution, when
you believe ones life maybe at stake.Also perhaps leagally, as he does run the board i believe and as a Doctor, who has taken an oathe.. maybe Dr. Bod had no choice, but to act as he did.
What I would try to look at as all the love and support the people here have for you..and how wonderful that all is.
and again, I am glad your doing better.
and i hope you continue to reach out and get more help ..so that life can be a wonderful thing again.
Peace123
Posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 6:29:21
In reply to Re: taking a walk, posted by Dr. Bob on March 23, 2004, at 3:32:06
Dr. Bob,
Thank you for getting back to us. I appreciate that.
I had a long cry in bed last night. I was not "embarrassed" or "ashamed" by the police showing up. I felt betrayed and threatened. And I certainly didn't want my kids to be aware of any of this happening with their mum.
Some people just don't want to be saved, when there really is nothing else. But I'll tell you what. When (or "if") the time comes for "that walk", I'll give you a heads up. How's that?
Just no more surprises, please. They make me feel lousy. Lol.
Sandy
Posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 6:32:50
In reply to Simus, posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 1:44:46
Simus,
It's another day. Where have you been? Everyone is worried about you, hun.
I'm actually going back to bed this morning. The kids and I didn't get much sleep last night, and the morning is too bright. Lol! I'll be back later when I catch a few more winks.
Don't be sad, Simus. You're not responsible. You really are not!
Hugs,
Sandy
Posted by want info on March 23, 2004, at 8:49:16
In reply to Re: To all: Goodbye, Simus, posted by SandyWeb on March 22, 2004, at 23:41:29
could someone please let me know? this is all really freaking me out. also my lex seems to not be working at the moment. maybe it's the time of the month coming up. but that seems unimportant at this moment. EM
Posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 10:04:35
In reply to Sandy, posted by jlynne on March 22, 2004, at 23:58:41
Hey Ya'll
I know you feel violated right now.I know you are probaly upset with Dr. Bob for taking action but it is actually his leagal duty. A Dr. or a thereapist is by law made to report any threat made by a person to harm themselves or another or harm being done to them. Though it may be passing thoughts, Sandy said a lot of things that made all of us think she was going to harm herself. She also made it sound as if her children were being neglected. Dr. Bob was just doing what he professionaly felt was just. Sandy I wish you could have been warned before some crazy police pounded on your door and your privacy was blown to bits, but you did have all of us really worried about your life. Even if this has been a bad experience, you know that people care about you that much.
Also, Simus. You did the right thing by asking Sandy to talk to us. We are a family and want others to be able to experience that. You did nothiing wrong and should not blame yourself. You are a great family member and it would be a terrible loss if you left us. We love you and think your do gooding heart is much more attractive then a black veil... how 1980s Madonna can you get, are you wearing lace black gloves as well? LOL. Come back.... we miss you!
Love and Blessings,
Lexy
Posted by Magdalena on March 23, 2004, at 12:33:09
In reply to WHAT IS GOING ON???, posted by want info on March 23, 2004, at 8:49:16
want info, theres just too much going on here but i think that it will calm down now, we are just waiting for Simus to come back.
do you notice that your meds dont work as good when its that time of the month? i was wondering that myself cause i am super close to mine.:) have great day!
Magdalena
Posted by want info on March 23, 2004, at 13:34:47
In reply to Re: WHAT IS GOING ON???, posted by Magdalena on March 23, 2004, at 12:33:09
mag (can i call you that??) i totally do notice that! i am about a day or two away and feel really spacey etc...like i did before i went from 10mg to 15. it IS as if they aren't working. have others corroborated that? EM
Posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 14:00:42
In reply to Re: WHAT IS GOING ON??? » Magdalena, posted by want info on March 23, 2004, at 13:34:47
Hey Girls,
Unfortunatley, it is the general thought that the meds do not work as well before our lovely time of the month. I know Mrs C., LynneDa, KathrynLex and I have had that convo many times!!! However, the cycles do seem to get better as the months go on. The first month I was a wreck, second month tearful and moody but better, this month I have been irriatable but not crying or snapping, Ive got about 5 days to go and am doing OK. I am hoping that as time goes on they cycles continue to improve. Hope this helps!!!!
God Bless,
Lexy
Posted by want info on March 23, 2004, at 14:29:35
In reply to Mag and Em, posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 14:00:42
thanks lexy...i feel so anxious, and spacy again! it's not really sadness, just anxiety. do you think that is time-of-the-month related as well? i should just have a day or two to go...EM
Posted by Magdalena on March 23, 2004, at 14:46:51
In reply to Mag and Em, posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 14:00:42
yeah thats how i tottaly feel, its like consitant anxiety/spaciness although it isnt always strong and it makes me feel as though the meds have turned their backs on me or so to speak..i know that i have to increase my dose soon too. I got my 'time of the month' today so i hope it was only that which has been causing this feeling. Thanks Lexy for the info about how we werent the only ones who noticed this, and it does help knowing that this too will get better. I am starting the BC pill this month so i hope this will too help.
Thanks for the posts Em and Lexy, it feels so much better knowing that its normal.
;)
Mag:)
Posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 15:15:16
In reply to Re: Mag and Em » sexylexy, posted by want info on March 23, 2004, at 14:29:35
Hi...
I usually feel a lot better after the first day of my period! Hope you do to, the months progress it gets better. Mag.. BE CAREFUL about the birth control pill, I took allese 28 and it is the reason I had to get on lexapro in the first place. I had never had a depression symptom in my life until that pill! Make sure your doc. knows whats going, Allese broke my life and I am now picking up the pieces!!!!
Lexy
Posted by Magdalena on March 23, 2004, at 15:51:38
In reply to Re: Mag and Em, posted by sexylexy on March 23, 2004, at 15:15:16
Hey Lexy, i was worried about going on the pill because back when i first started with anxiety/depression was 5 years ago and i was on the pill at the time and i tottaly stoped cause i didnt want to have any drugs in my system, i became very medicine-phobic which i am getting better at and is one of the reasons why i am going to try taking them again. I never have taken alesse but i dont think it was the pill that caused my anxiety(but you never know).
Can i ask how long you were on them before you started getting these horrible side effects?
i am going to monitor how i feel after taking them for a while and i did tell my doctor that i am going on these, i was very concerned about it.the ones i am trying now are called Triquilar 28, my sister has had good experince with these and suggested them to me.
:)thanks for the heads up, i always get funny looks when i raise concerns about the pill:P
Mag
Posted by want info on March 23, 2004, at 15:59:32
In reply to Re: Mag and Em » sexylexy, posted by Magdalena on March 23, 2004, at 15:51:38
hey guys...im on apri 28 (bc pills) and have been since i was 20 (26 now). i have never had problems with anxiety from the meds...i had it way before that...lol. i think if you try to be on a low-dose estrogen one (ask your gyno) they may have fewer s/e's.
i feel so spaced out today! tomorrow should be the first day of my period...but i was so anxious today i almost called my do! em
Posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 16:14:39
In reply to Re: WHAT IS GOING ON???, posted by Magdalena on March 23, 2004, at 12:33:09
The police were here AGAIN today. *sigh*
Sandy
Posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 16:22:34
In reply to Re: WHAT IS GOING ON???, posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 16:14:39
> The police were here AGAIN today. *sigh*
>
> Sandy
>What did thay say, Sandy? Were they just following up, or what??
...jlynne
Posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 16:34:15
In reply to Re: WHAT IS GOING ON??? » SandyWeb, posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 16:22:34
Apparently, Dr. Bob sent them out again. This time the 2 cops sat with me for quite some time, trying to decide what to do. I was a good girl, though, and they couldn't find a reason to haul me off.
I guess they had been looking for me earlier in the day. Then they went to the apartment office and stated they needed to find me on an urgent matter. THEN they called my next of kin, who is my mum. Scared her half to death.
The police said that if they couldn't find me, they were going to put out an all-points-bulletin for me.
Is this over now, Dr. Bob? I would like my privacy back again.
Sandy
Posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 16:43:48
In reply to Re: WHAT IS GOING ON??? » jlynne, posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 16:34:15
Sandy, did they actually say that Dr. Bob sent them? I could be that it is their policy to follow up on something like this??
Do you know how to post to the Psycho Babble Administration Board? You might get a faster answer from Dr. Bob that way.
I'm so sorry you are having to go through all this. Were your children there this time? Is your mother all right?
Are YOU all right? My heart goes out to you. ...jlynne
Posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 16:48:21
In reply to Sandy, posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 16:43:48
Yes, it was from Dr. Bob. They showed me his email and letterhead. And it was a different message that I had posted from the message shown me by the night policemen.
Yes, the kids were here but I just asked them to go to their bedrooms.
My folks are okay NOW. They fretted all afternoon, and were in the process of changing their plans for tomorrow.
Has anyone heard from Simus yet?Sandy
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 23, 2004, at 17:02:03
In reply to Re: Sandy » jlynne, posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 16:48:21
> Some people just don't want to be saved, when there really is nothing else. But I'll tell you what. When (or "if") the time comes for "that walk", I'll give you a heads up. How's that?
> Is this over now, Dr. Bob?
It would be great if you'd let us know, but what if that meant more police? I hope you understand if I worry about you deciding you'd rather not be saved...
> Apparently, Dr. Bob sent them out again.
> They showed me his email and letterhead. And it was a different message that I had posted from the message shown me by the night policemen.
Are you sure? I only sent one message.
Bob
Posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 17:05:50
In reply to Re: Sandy » jlynne, posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 16:48:21
Sandy, I have checked all the other boards periodically, and I have not seen Simus posting on any of them. I'm not sure what to think.
She seems to be a very spiritual woman, like yourself, so I am hoping that she has someone from her church to turn to.
And I want to add that, in spite of all the commotion you had to endure last night and today, I am sure glad that you are all right. (I would have thought that that was made clear last night, though!) You seem to be taking all of it very well, and I look forward to seeing more of your sense of humor in the future. God bless. ...jlynne
Posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 17:09:14
In reply to Re: more police, posted by Dr. Bob on March 23, 2004, at 17:02:03
> Are you sure? I only sent one message.
>
> BobBob, are saying that you DIDN'T send them a second time??
...jlynne
Posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 17:43:02
In reply to Re: more police, posted by jlynne on March 23, 2004, at 17:09:14
Good golly, don't everybody all get in a tither here.
I'm fine. I'm very, very, very tired......but I'm fine. I could drop on my feet right now. I'm all tuckered out.
I hope nobody minds if I go to bed early tonight.
Sandy
Posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 17:44:44
In reply to Re: more police, posted by Dr. Bob on March 23, 2004, at 17:02:03
Please don't send them again, Dr. Bob. I'm too tired to deal with them right now. I just want some quiet.
Thank you.
Sandy
Posted by mystic on March 23, 2004, at 18:17:36
In reply to Re: more police » jlynne, posted by SandyWeb on March 23, 2004, at 17:43:02
Hello everyone...Not feeling well tonight ...Did have my root canal and have a terrible migraine and very anxious and depressed...The posts seem to have gotten a little out of control in here...It is very upsetting...I feel that the way the letters were going and the things that were being said at that time everyone was sooooo upset and we try to come to these posts to get comfort and try to figure out how to get through a hard time..we are trying to help people...Helping people is trying to figure out when there is a crisis and from the sounds of those posts there was definately a crisis and there were things being said that any person would be worried about and we all were..Mrs C.. was worried...Em was worried we were all worried...It was very scary and to feel guilty about caring and wanting to help someone is not what I came to the posts to do...
Dr. Bobs job is to monitor what is going on and to make sure things are ok and everyone should know this when they begin posting...So to blame him for reacting to a situation is very harsh...He did what he thought again because of what was said in the posts It was scary...To continue to write his nasty posts and questioning him I think is wrong...
I guess I am going to take a break for a bit I guess I'm just a little confused as to what to do when a situation like this happens..I know that I wouldnt want to be the one saying shoulda coulda woulda...
I'm sorry just was feeling upset about all the posts and wanted to get it off my chest...I'm anxious and very emotional about it I had a very very close friend commit suicide and will never forgive myself for not knowing or doing something just thought she would come out of it as she always did...now her son will never ever know what a wonderful special person his mother was...
I hope that everything settles down and gets back to normal..I'm just not getting any comfort from the posts and might take a brake...I hope everyone feels better soon and take good care of yourselves....Your friend Mystic
Posted by wantinfo on March 23, 2004, at 18:28:19
In reply to RE:: Hello Everyone, posted by mystic on March 23, 2004, at 18:17:36
mystic, i understand. as much as i wish the best for sandy and everyone, i am not in a state now where i can help someone with a situation like that. i love to discuss how everyone's doing on lex and i will continue to do that, you are all godsent, but i do not feel equipped to deal with this situation and it very much increased my anxiety today. sorry to anyone that might be offended by this. i'll still be around and you all have helped me more than you know, but i will no longer be commenting/replying to the bob/sandy/police situation. i hope you all understand.
emily
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