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Posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 18:16:46
In reply to Re: cybersex, Alesta » alesta, posted by alexandra_k on May 1, 2005, at 21:07:51
Posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 18:29:37
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on..., posted by Susan47 on May 9, 2005, at 18:15:49
> You don't seem like an introvert.
i know..i think i might be split right down the center between intro- and extroverted, now that i think about it. not sure..
> I don't think I have a type. I like men who're slightly extroverted, not to the point of being annoying about it though.
see, you've got it easy..there are plenty of extraverts floating around out there...and you're introverted right? so that's a nice, neat little package that makes sense and everyone's happy..
<I like the self-confident, sure type, nice-looking, attractive but humble about it, not assuming Anything because of his looks. I think, in general, guys tend to have an instinct towards natural self-inflation (OH THAT'S A KNEE-BANGER, banger, get it? All right) okay .. self-congratulatory-type behaviour. You know, I must be really good 'cause she wants me, that type of thing.
my ex....that's my ex....
<Then there's the other kind, the kind who wouldn't assume you'd date him if he were Gates himself (no I wouldn't date that man I don't care how much money he's got, he's gross, his nature IS printed all over him, his features themselves aren't generally disgusting, although not overly attractive either, but it's his Nature, you know, it's the nature of the man that shows and makes him unattractive to me).
i think gates is a narcissist..i can't remember much what he looks like or anything..
> Hm.
> Not answering any questions though, your question. I like extroverts, slightly but not annoyingly so, you know, like the kind of guy who thinks his personality is so wonderful he just HAS to be liked, the blind kind. Those men assume too much, waaaaayyy too much, they're generally really incredibly successful with women and because of that they're a bit empty inside. There's a hardness that men like this develop, over time. I don't know why that is, exactly. I've known incredibly good-looking men who don't assume too much, and the funny thing is, they're all in really happy or seemingly happy marriages, you respect these marriages because both partners seem well-balanced. Hmm.let me guess...your T...just kidding :)
<I don't know why I wandered over here, I'm sorry. My mind is dreamily wandering today. I feel free, and sad, incredibly sad. Because I'm thinking about tears being shed, unnecessary tears. Love is always just around the corner.
i know...i just want to learn to be alone..and *stay* alone, lol. i'm sick of heartache..sick, sick, sick..whenever i start to get used to being alone, though, is always when some dude shows up to sweep me off my feet..figures, right? well, not this time...:)
amy:)
Posted by Susan47 on May 9, 2005, at 20:23:10
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » Susan47, posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 18:29:37
What're you doing, daring fate? Because fate never steps up to the plate when you think you've got it fooled that you're not looking. It knows you're saying but looking anyway.
Do you know what a good-looking man is? Not gorgeous, but empathic. Not handsome, but gorgeous in his love for himself, his love for what he's found he's capable of, and his awe of that because of the power he knows he has; but respectful of the power, and honest with himself over his use or abuse of it, and honest with others, because he really in his heart can take risks in the name of love.
There're men who're quite happy to hurt others. There are men who do. You can see them, they're the gobblers of the world, the roosters, and they take no prisoners.
A good-looking man recognizes his fears, but doesn't allow the fear to be his master.
Have you ever seen a man who's afraid he's going to be caught doing something he shouldn't? The beautiful turned ugly, for a moment and then for eternity, because you cannot go back, time just won't work that way.
Damn.
Posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 20:57:26
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » alesta, posted by Susan47 on May 9, 2005, at 20:23:10
hehe..you're so dramatic! yes, i do understand what you're talking about concerning the true beauty of a man..absolutely. and i am not looking for a drop-dead gorgeous guy. been there, done that. it's nice to be attracted, and it doesn't take chiseled (sp.) looks to achieve that at all...i could be just as attracted to an 'average-looking guy' if he has the qualities i want...probably more attracted possibly..or attracted in a better way..i want something fulfilling, ya know..a connection..
no, i'm really not tempting fate, susan..love seriously has been really painful to me..people don't realize that i am an *extremely* feeling, sensitive, passionate person...i mean, it is not overt..it is something i feel inside me for the person..it's not that i'm like one of those chicks on the cover of romance novels lying in his arms with my shirt popping open..not overt like that..but the intense feelings i have for the person are there..i think i must produce an excessive amount of the love chemical in the brain..PEA, oxytocin, dopamine..whichever it is...b/c when i fall in love there is no one more in love than i. i don't notice any other guys than the one i'm in love with..i mean i am intense, honey. and so, (yes, i'm getting to an actual point here :)) love is always going to be painful for someone like me..you feel the intense happiness of being in love with someone, but then you feel the pain just as deeply when they disappoint you..romance is not a stable happiness..it's almost like temporary insanity, lol..for me anyway..i'm a different person when in love..i just don't want it anymore. honestly.
unless..i am willing to deal with the romance part in order to get to the 'friendship' part of the relationship...but i don't know if i really *want* a close friend to work the whole rest of my life around. i think i might be happier on my own...these are all things i need to think about. ahhh sorry susan i went on there a bit long...
Posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 21:23:30
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » Susan47, posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 20:57:26
i think i prefer introverts. i just wish they preferred me. see, it doesn't make sense..well, maybe they do prefer me..but hell..i don't even know....
aim
Posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 8:21:44
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » alesta, posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 21:23:30
Amy,
I was kind of lurking this thread this morning and happened to notice one statement that you made that just kind of "popped" in my head. You know, an "aha" kind of "pop"...
You told Susan that you thought that maybe you could get through the romance part to get to the close frinedship part, but that you are unsure if you want to "work your life around theirs". (Not an exact quote, I know)
I think the whole point is "making a life WITH", not "around".
Do you think that would be possible for you? If not, why not? (I'm not trying to interrogate you; I'm attempting to develop a theory for myself about why we "feelers" spend so much time in pain instead of so much time with the elation feelings)
Thanks!
sunny10
Posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 9:02:04
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » alesta, posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 21:23:30
I met an introvert here in my laundry room. He's a scientist. He looks in his thirties, mid- to late-, he's quite good-looking, but there's something about him that's too guileless or something. A bit fawning. It's hard for me to describe, it's like he doesn't know his own power yet, his power with people. That's the type I can't be attracted to. He doesn't own his power at all.
The man who knows his power but doesn't abuse it, a man who is aware of his capacity for love, and isn't afraid to use it. Because he knows it's unlimited. You know, someone like me. :) I'm a narcissist. Maybe I like narcissists in general. I think maybe they're attractive, at a really deep-seated level for me, y'know? Maybe you have to be a bit of a narcissist to really know yourself ...?
Posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 9:15:41
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on..., posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 8:21:44
You might want to read this book, "Labyrinth of Desire", maybe it'll help you answer the pain question. It helped me, I probably should buy it and re-read it every once inawhile. I hope your therapist is a woman BTW, or if a man, one who's fearlessly able to work through things with you.
Posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 11:09:42
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » sunny10, posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 9:15:41
so what, in your opinion is the difference between high self-esteem and narcisism?
In my opinion, someone with high self-esteem does not need to manipulate others in order to "create the illusion of high self-esteem" as a Narcisist does...
And are you aquiring high self-esteem or do you think you're a Narcisist?
And if someone is a diagnosed Narcisist, do they have the ability to change and accept that they do not need others to be "weak" in order to make themselves feel strong?
I am just full of questions today....I'm not trying to challenge you at all (I know what you mean about others reading what we type with a difference "voice" than the one we mean...)
I just find myself questioning everything lately...and life itself.
Posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 11:23:30
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on..., posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 8:21:44
> You told Susan that you thought that maybe you could get through the romance part to get to the close frinedship part, but that you are unsure if you want to "work your life around theirs". (Not an exact quote, I know)
>
> I think the whole point is "making a life WITH", not "around".
>
> Do you think that would be possible for you? If not, why not? (I'm not trying to interrogate you; I'm attempting to develop a theory for myself about why we "feelers" spend so much time in pain instead of so much time with the elation feelings)
hi sunny10! how are you missy? :) glad to have another fellow 'rambler'..sometimes it's fun to let loose and just talk "feelings", ya know?anyways, back to the discussion..ummm..
> You told Susan that you thought that maybe you could get through the romance part to get to the close frinedship part, but that you are unsure if you want to "work your life around theirs".
oops..i did day that, didn't i?:) i was just rambling so i didn't inhibit myself i guess...funny what comes out of your mouth..i hate it when that happens. :)
i guess i'm feelling pretty negative right now about relationships. i can't envision what it would be like to have a close friendship with a mate..i don't know how common close, happy friendships are with mates anyway..and if it would be fulfilling and worth it..guess it could happen for me..maybe..i don't know.
i know you have to take that chance if you choose to find out. i'm just not sure if i'm willing do that or if i should embrace being fulfilled on my own. i know it's a choice i will have to make, with no clear answers. i do know that i really enjoy my own company, after i have gotten over relationships that have ended..
i just got out of a relationship, so my feelings on relationships are definitely tainted on the negative side..probably a good thing..they might be protecting me from getting into *another* one!
can we talk about something else? lol i just realized how much a hate this topic i brought up!!!
kisses,
aim
Posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 11:47:13
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » sunny10, posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 11:23:30
righto... well... hmmm...
I guess I am rather consumed with that particular topic right now...
Although my SO would ask why you can't have a relationship's closeness AND take time to enjoy your own company solo....
So... we could segue (sp?) directly from his opinion on the subject and talk about why I disagree with him at the moment...
It's a matter of what it is you choose to DO with your alone time. Are you afraid that someone will not accept you for what it is you choose to do by yourself? And that brings me to ...
HOBBIES, et cetera... what DO you like to do by yourself? (Really asking for ideas- I mostly just read when I'm by myself and enjoy it immensely, but am very open to new ideas !!!)
(How did you like my method of "change of subject"?!?!)
Posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 11:53:13
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on..., posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 9:02:04
> I met an introvert here in my laundry room. He's a scientist. He looks in his thirties, mid- to late-, he's quite good-looking, but there's something about him that's too guileless or something. A bit fawning. It's hard for me to describe, it's like he doesn't know his own power yet, his power with people. That's the type I can't be attracted to. He doesn't own his power at all.
oh, i can get a feel about him just from the way you described him..i wouldn't be attracted to him either, lol. you want someone more..manly..no..hard to put a word to it...i enjoy turning my brain off when i ramble like this.:)
> The man who knows his power but doesn't abuse it, a man who is aware of his capacity for love, and isn't afraid to use it. Because he knows it's unlimited. You know, someone like me. :) I'm a narcissist. Maybe I like narcissists in general. I think maybe they're attractive, at a really deep-seated level for me, y'know?
you think you're a narcissist? really? no WAY.:) i'll tell you why. susan, *everyone* has narcissistic *tendencies*, i am referring to the clinical definition of the narcissist..one who has narcissistic personality disorder. these people *do not* have the capacity for real love. the fact that you said "a man who is aware of his capacity for love, and isn't afraid to use it. Because he knows it's unlimited. You know, someone like me." tells me right there that you are *not* one. not even close, kid.:)
<Maybe you have to be a bit of a narcissist to really know yourself ...?
or experience with one. you don't need to have a disorder to spot it if you've studied them..in my experience..
amy
Posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 12:08:30
In reply to Re: well you STARTED it » alesta, posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 11:47:13
> righto... well... hmmm...
LOL, oh sunny, i know, i'm kidding around!:) i do that sometimes..start topics that i wish i hadn't..hope that didn't sound bad..guess ya gotta know me to know when i'm just being silly:) i figured you'd be one of those types of ppl who wouldn't take offense..:) sorry! btw, i'm enjoying the topic again, and your response.:-)
> I guess I am rather consumed with that particular topic right now...
>
> Although my SO would ask why you can't have a relationship's closeness AND take time to enjoy your own company solo....yes. but that's hard to do in today's fast-pasted 8-6 world....
> So... we could segue (sp?) directly from his opinion on the subject and talk about why I disagree with him at the moment...
>
> It's a matter of what it is you choose to DO with your alone time. Are you afraid that someone will not accept you for what it is you choose to do by yourself?no, it's just the 'compromising'..i'd have to watch what he wants to watch on tv (a biggie), compromise on what music to listen to (another biggie), and a bunch of other minor stuff that adds up that i can't think of right now..
And that brings me to ...
>
> HOBBIES, et cetera... what DO you like to do by yourself? (Really asking for ideas- I mostly just read when I'm by myself and enjoy it immensely, but am very open to new ideas !!!)right now..my free time is spent fully with my mom..any spare moments i usually jump on this computer and do my little posting and reading frenzy...so right now, no real hobbies. i guess reading for me, too, would be my future hobby.:) i used too play my violin as well but had to sell that. i think another hobby to do would be singing. umm..what else..i might get another pet..guess it wouldn't constitute as a hobby, lol..
> (How did you like my method of "change of subject"?!?!)
beautiful, sunny, beautiful..:)
amy
Posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 14:26:05
In reply to Re: well you STARTED it » sunny10, posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 12:08:30
I think you nailed it with the 8-6 world comment...
I'm not sure why we are all so hard on ourselves and each other all of the time...
It's hard enough to deal with the fact that it is an 8-6 world...and our men still expect us to act like their mothers- who soothed them and placated them- who went along with them... and who were under a great deal less stress than we are today! We need to be soothed and placated as much as they do, now!
I'm not saying that none of them worked outside the home- a lot did... but they were not pushed to be "career-driven" as we are. They had jobs with very small amounts of responsibility. They were basically office wives, "restaurant wives", laundry wives, cleaning wives, et cetera (you know what I'm getting at)
I think the key is to finding the guy that enjoys a lot of the same things as you do (tv shows, music, et cetera), but with enough small differences to keep conversation interesting. And, frankly, we can compromise on what to watch on tv or which music to listen to if we know that we will command the remote/stereo when our SO's are out with their friends, and they will command them when we are out with our friends...
That's the way these things SHOULD work, anyway...
Posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 19:16:10
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on..., posted by sunny10 on May 10, 2005, at 11:09:42
I think it's good to question life. I intend to question it until my last breath.
This narcissism stuff you brought up, the ability to change ... I just want to go into diagnosing a narcissist. That would be very strange. Because you couldn't just up and tell a narcissist what he is, he's pathological until he's no longer a narcissist. The moment a narcissist realizes what he is, he's stopped being one. If the realization is honest, that is. Lots of people are good at playing the no-no that's-not-me game. I worry about myself too, maybe I play that game. I know that I used to. I really lived in huge denial about myself and my family, my life and everything, I didn't wanna own it. There, like a baby. Waaaa.
Posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 19:22:58
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » Susan47, posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 11:53:13
Amy you're right. One experience is enough, actually. I don't know how many I've had, I honestly haven't looked that closely, but I do know I've been scarred emotionally. A lot, quite a lot actually, because when I think about my emotional scar it's big, it runs from my head, right where my eyes start, and it goes through my neck, hot and hard and hurting my shoulders, it runs through my legs into my feet and down into the ground. The scar is attached to the ground, it's big and hard and white and smooth, curved around and around like a vine, with a layer of gloopy wetness on the outside, it takes up the whole middle of me, head to toe.
Wow.
I never thought of it like that, maybe now that I've envisioned my emotional scar (!!) I can try to heal it, it just came to me, and my shoulders are still burning.
What were we talking about, I forgot.
Posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 20:38:44
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on... » alesta, posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 19:22:58
> Wow.
> I never thought of it like that, maybe now that I've envisioned my emotional scar (!!) I can try to heal it, it just came to me, and my shoulders are still burning.
> What were we talking about, I forgot.that..is..SO..cool..that you had a moment like that when you were talking to me. i love hearing sh$t like that..anyway..i don't know..we can talk about whatever you want..what's a good topic??????? let us ponder this.....aim
Posted by Susan47 on May 11, 2005, at 8:44:27
In reply to Re: well you STARTED it » sunny10, posted by alesta on May 10, 2005, at 12:08:30
You had to sell your violin?
That's horrible. I had to sell my piano when I left the marriage last year. It was heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking.
Posted by alesta on May 11, 2005, at 12:13:15
In reply to Re: well you STARTED it » alesta, posted by Susan47 on May 11, 2005, at 8:44:27
sooz..good...what is it now....afternoon! :-)
> You had to sell your violin?
> That's horrible. I had to sell my piano when I left the marriage last year. It was heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking.awww, susan, i'm sorry. that sounds like it was really difficult. you made it through, though..proud of ya.:-)
it was depressing to me, too, selling my violin..i haven't touched a violin in years..that was my artistic outlet, ya know?
that's awesome..the piano :)..the piano is a cool instrument..i wish i'd learned that or guitar..it would be easier to write songs if i could play those..
i'm kind of looking for an artistic outlet..can you think of any or do you have any other creative things you like to? any drawing or art of any kind? or...? i'm thinking of really learning to sing..i've always done it for fun, and i love singing karaoke.:) but maybe i'll take that up more seriously..do you like to sing, suzie? btw, that was a beautiful segway you did to this new topic....:)
actually, now that i think about this artistic hobby thing, i think i should probably stick to the area of music...i'm not a 'visual' artist and don't particularly enjoy drawing, etc.
amy;)
Posted by Susan47 on May 11, 2005, at 20:06:56
In reply to Re: well you STARTED it » Susan47, posted by alesta on May 11, 2005, at 12:13:15
Drawing is lovely, for me. I love it. But I never do it.
Taken a couple of drawing classes, I'd love to do it all the time. But something always stops me. Fear. Huge. Huge fear. Same with writing. I want to write stuff, even a diary, but I can't. I read it later and it all sounds stupid. It takes a few years of distance before I can read anything with any understanding about what was happening for me. I wish now that I'd kept the diary I started when I was 14.. and the scrapbook I had, I loved making this scrapbook. It's all gone, thrown away in a fit of young adulthood. You know, that I-can't-believe-that-was-me ...? It's never a good experience for me when I read what I wrote too soon, when I'm going through rapid change. It can take 10 years or more to look back on myself with amusement. Which is what it takes, you know, to come to acceptance, sometimes.
I ramble.
Posted by alesta on May 11, 2005, at 22:48:19
In reply to Re: well you STARTED it, posted by Susan47 on May 11, 2005, at 20:06:56
hey girl :) man i am pretty freaking tired tonite..i need to catch up on some sleep *majorly*..so i hope this post is at least intelligible on some level..and i'll try my best not to doze off here..:)
> Drawing is lovely, for me. I love it. But I never do it.
< Taken a couple of drawing classes, I'd love to do it all the time. But something always stops me. Fear. Huge. Huge fear.
why don't you just draw for fun, if you really enjoy it...not put any pressure on yourself..you don't have to show it to nobody.:)
< Same with writing. I want to write stuff, even a diary, but I can't. I read it later and it all sounds stupid. It takes a few years of distance before I can read anything with any understanding about what was happening for me. I wish now that I'd kept the diary I started when I was 14.. and the scrapbook I had, I loved making this scrapbook. It's all gone, thrown away in a fit of young adulthood. You know, that I-can't-believe-that-was-me ...? It's never a good experience for me when I read what I wrote too soon, when I'm going through rapid change. It can take 10 years or more to look back on myself with amusement. Which is what it takes, you know, to come to acceptance, sometimes.
> I ramble.why don't you just put pen to paper and see what happens? nothing catastrophic is gonna happen..you might just enjoy yourself.:)
i hear you concerning wishing you'd hung on to old diaries...years ago i threw away a diary i had starting writing in when i was 9 years old..boy would i like to get my hands on that sucker now, lol..
<and the scrapbook I had, I loved making this scrapbook. It's all gone, thrown away in a fit of young adulthood. You know, that I-can't-believe-that-was-me ...?
i understand exactly. i've thrown stuff like that away on impulse and later regretted it, too..anyway, i don't think you were looking for real advice, but just rambling, as you say, so i will segway for a moment...
since you're a musical/auditory type person like i am. do you find that people's voices are really important to you? i was curious whether a guy's voice is as important to you as it is to me. like, if a guy had a squeaky voice or something, i don't think i could handle it, lol..i love a sexy, compassionate tone to a guy's voice..or just a nice tone...a nice tone *is* sexy..you know what i mean..and the way he talks..ya gotta like his accent..you know that singer..john mayer i think his name is..he sings that song..your body is a wonderland, which i *hate*, but, anyway, for some reason his accent irritates the $%$% out of me..it's this subtle irritating accent when he sings. (haven't heard him talk.) i rarely react so strongly and negatively to an accent, but there is just something about his that drives me nuts! (in a bad way.) i don't think i could listen to that..know what i'm sayin..now i'm rambling..but that was the intention.......have a BEAUTIFUL night darling susan...wish i had a guy here with me to say that to, lol...know what i mean??? i *know* you do....:):):):)
bon nuit, susanne,
amy
Posted by alexandra_k on May 12, 2005, at 5:04:43
In reply to Re: Susan..or anyone who feels like rambling on..., posted by Susan47 on May 10, 2005, at 9:02:04
> I met an introvert here in my laundry room. He's a scientist. He looks in his thirties, mid- to late-, he's quite good-looking, but there's something about him that's too guileless or something. A bit fawning. It's hard for me to describe, it's like he doesn't know his own power yet, his power with people. That's the type I can't be attracted to. He doesn't own his power at all.
Hmm.
That sparked my interest.
I wonder what he thinks about?
I wonder if he feels passionate about it?
Sometimes guys like that can be just wonderful.
A bit of care and it brings them out of their shell.But I know what you mean.
There is a tendancy to be attracted to people who initially appear to be 'strong'.. Only trouble is they generally turn out to be verrrrrry insecure and weak or violent and abusive or whatever.
I wonder sometimes...
If the people who are trustworthy I'm incapable of falling for
And the people who I am capable of falling for would never really fall for me (or be trustworthy).So there is the dilemma and there it is
i dont know
Posted by alexandra_k on May 12, 2005, at 5:07:08
In reply to Re: cybersex, Alesta » alesta, posted by alesta on May 9, 2005, at 18:14:12
> hey alex, where you at? haven't seen you much lately..maybe if i respark our cybersex conversation you'll return???
Hiya. Sorry... Have been a bit busy lately... Missed the thread.
Be busy for the next few weeks... or so... I don't know...
I miss you guys
Posted by Susan47 on May 12, 2005, at 9:14:53
In reply to rambling....auditory importance... » Susan47, posted by alesta on May 11, 2005, at 22:48:19
No. A man? What's that? A memory. Right now I'm thinking about my ex-T's legs, I want to know what they look like. Because a man's legs can be sooooo sexy.
Voices ... you mentioned voices. My ex-T's voice is heavenly. Not because he's a therapist, but that's just the voice he has. He's very fortunate. Not everyone has that. Oh man, he's just gorgeous in so many ways. I wonder if he has a twin that would be interested in me. Sigh. I think he's ruined me, you know, for men. Because no one will ever be that satisfying again. (heavy heavy sigh)
Ew, speaking of lovely, I was watching some television for a few minutes last night, I saw Joey from Friends, he was wearin this gorgeous heavy sweater, you know, it accented the shoulders - big shoulders is another heavy attraction for me ... and all I thought about was, what does he smell like, under the arms, you know? I LOOOOOVE the way some men smell. It's their smell. The smell is heavenly. The smell of a man's pheromones will get me to instantly turn on.
Mmmmmm. I miss that smell soooo much.
Posted by sunny10 on May 12, 2005, at 9:55:03
In reply to Pffft, a GUY????? » alesta, posted by Susan47 on May 12, 2005, at 9:14:53
I know what you mean about particular men being different from all others dependent upon how they smell to us... but I'm usually hurt by the ones that smell "right" to me...
How 'bout you???
By the way- quick reality check... can you really be ruined for other men when you've NEVER EVEN SEEN HIS LEGS????? I think NOT, my love!!!
Have you stopped calling his machine yet? I want a quick time check... has it been three weeks since the last time you heard his voice yet???
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH,
sunny10
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