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Posted by Justherself54 on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:39
In reply to Re: Apologies, posted by okydoky on December 13, 2009, at 19:59:41
>>How could you think he could stand in judgement without certain knowledge of what has occurred?
None of us, except Rocket and Phillipa, have the certain knowledge of what has occured.
I'm just saying that if I got an email on my personal email account that I took exception to, and without the civility guidelines pertaining to a babblemail..I certainly would take care of it at that level..
So what do you want to see as a result of this thread?
Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:39
In reply to Re: Sheesh, posted by Justherself54 on December 13, 2009, at 20:51:48
I feel Merry Christmas, Happy Hannakah would be more in the spirit. It's sad that so many feel horrible at this time of year. I usually say thankfully I don't have this or that illness and lucky to have the ones I do. Sorry if you felt I just left but I do have things other than babble to do. Oh it was a babblemail. Just to clarify. Phillipa How bout we get some spirit and do something nice for someone else tomorrow? Makes you feel a bit better!!!!
Posted by RocketMan on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:39
In reply to Re: Apologies » okydoky, posted by Justherself54 on December 13, 2009, at 21:00:22
> None of us, except Rocket and Phillipa, have the certain knowledge of what has occured.
>My original post was to Phillipa. I would not of started the post unless I felt justified. I am not willing to copy and paste the email she sent me. Your request for me to do so is stooping to the level of what Phillipa has done. The fact that others have voiced their concerns is none of my doings, but, does bring forth a disturbing pattern.
> I'm just saying that if I got an email on my personal email account that I took exception to, and without the civility guidelines pertaining to a babble mail..I certainly would take care of it at that level..
>You do what you like, as I did.
> So what do you want to see as a result of this thread?
The thread has grown legs of it's own, by both sides. My point was to alert Phillipa to the fact I am no longer willing to have communication with her. I have learned my lesson, as have may others. Now let the thread die, if you can.....
Rocket
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:40
In reply to Re: Apologies » Justherself54, posted by RocketMan on December 13, 2009, at 22:18:53
>>How could you think he could stand in judgement without certain knowledge of what has occurred?
I am sorry if you misunderstood it was meant as something that would be ridiculous for the very reasons you stated.
I had received a Babble also that bothered me some and when i saw others it hit a nerve.
I am human with my own faults and bad moods.
I definitely did not like being insulted and I reacted.
I seem to be hard headed sometimes and it takes several tries for me to learn my lesson.
I will try to take a cue from you and try to stick to my own issues with others.
I appreciate the constructive criticism. It was needed.
oky
Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:40
In reply to Re: Apologies » RocketMan, posted by okydoky on December 13, 2009, at 22:41:56
Hi I'm hoping you don't mean I sent one that was insulting as I didn't. Could you or would you mind clarifying that? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:40
In reply to Re: Apologies » okydoky, posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2009, at 22:57:37
Honestly Phillipa I was trying to send another post to clarify that I "felt" insulted but I am so da**** physically ill tonight I was not able to do it through all the tears.
I am clarifying that you did make me feel that way whether you meant to or not.
And now I am officially ending my interaction on this thread.
oky
Posted by johnj1 on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:40
In reply to Re: Sheesh, posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2009, at 21:02:30
Why should we just blow it off? That is what you want isn't it? You need to take repsonsibiltiy for your actions. Many here know this is not the first time you have been called on for being offensive to others and then you cry out that people are picking on you. I think your intentions have come to light here and people have the right to be wary.
Posted by Nadezda on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:41
In reply to Re: Sheesh, posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2009, at 21:02:30
Did you do something nice for someone today, Phillipa? Did it help you feel better?
Nadezda
Posted by morganator on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:41
In reply to Re: Sheesh, posted by Nadezda on December 14, 2009, at 23:43:04
Really has she been that bad or are people here super sensitive?
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
In reply to Re: Apologies, posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:38
> What up with the babblemail you sent me? Are you trying to stir things up, or, or you just very lonely and need some attention??????
>
> RocketMan> Well not to be a trouble maker,but instead simply speak my situation,phillipa has EMAILED me initially and so on,i have answered being a nice person,and she then eith released the conversations of those emails in posts,or used them AGANIST ME in debated posts.
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> willyeee> this was blown out of proportion.
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> PhillipaPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused. Even if you feel hurt yourself.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're bad people, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.
Denise, thanks for apologizing.
Justyourself54 and RocketMan, thanks for trying to de-escalate this later.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express yourself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
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> please refrain from any contact with myself, either by babble mail, or here on the posting site.
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> RocketMan> I just truly believe that there is much more to be gained by dealing with these issues ourselves, and I mean as a community of equals, than by entrusting what is "good" and/or "right" (I am not good with words sorry) to some "administrator" and/or his "deputies". I think this is a chance to try out our self reliance without the possible repercussions that could come in the "real world".
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> I do think if one does not want to receive Babble form a particular person I should be able to exclude them.
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> okyI support self-reliance. You can choose not to open a post or an email. But other posters may feel hurt if you ask them not to post to you. But as a last resort, there's a procedure if you feel harassed here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#harassed
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> Dr. Bob's policies should not allow for this type of behavior!
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> johnj1> Dr. Bob can be of help if babblemail was involved. If email was involved contacting a person's ISP's abuse department might be an option.
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> 2nd xylophone> I am not implying anyone is lying it is just difficult to know exactly what is really going on and why and what the intent was.
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> okyRight, I can confirm whether babblemail is genuine and block someone from sending them:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#babblemail
But with email, the appropriate authority is the sender's email provider.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 3:55:52
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Dr Bob,
You have my name stated my name >oky twice with statements following that I did not make and I fail to understand how I was uncivil. If anything I jumped through multiple hoops to ensure I was not, to include an apology when I unintentionally worded my post not clarifying "I felt"...
Would you please clarify?Who is "Denise" in this thread and where is the opology?
oky
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 4:11:04
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 3:55:52
Please clarify as my name was not in the "please be civil" post subjet line yet I was referred to twice even after I apologised.
oky
Posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:41:36
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 3:55:52
Denise's post where her apology is:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20091103/msgs/929330.html
Dr. Bob wasn't calling you uncivil. Just quoting your comments in discussing asking people not to post to others on Babble,is all. He just included everything in one big post. He confuses me sometimes with that as well :-)
Your words are in your post here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20091103/msgs/929326.html
Hope this helps clarify, even if I am just some ***former*** "deputy" ;-)
Posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:42:56
In reply to Re: please be civil » okydoky, posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:41:36
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 15, 2009, at 6:52:12
In reply to Phillipa, posted by RocketMan on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:26
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 6:58:09
In reply to Re: please be civil » okydoky, posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:41:36
Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 10:36:44
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Dr. Bob confused so If you're asking me to be civil I apologize. Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 13:44:30
In reply to Re: Confused, posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 10:36:44
Posted by willyeee on December 15, 2009, at 17:17:21
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Oh my god,now im offended and hurt,i post something i felt upset me,i did not lie in anyway,information i gave in confidentialiy was put on the board and i spoke my mind on it,i post advice here every chance i get never with any shred of uncivility,i mind my buisness,i post only to post i know of such as maois rather then ssris due to the fact im partial to them and dont want to give off a negative vibe,im at a loss for words im found to be uncivil,i responded to a thread that was going,as any other thread,if the thread was becomming too much,i dont think de escaltion would be needed,but rather quicker response by adminstation to remove it,since when is it uncivil to see a thread and include your post,if i wass adding "fuel to a fire" then the thread should not have been there in the first place.
Im truly disappointed.
Posted by twinleaf on December 15, 2009, at 21:18:50
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
In addition to the warnings about being civil, I hope a deeper look is being taken at this situation. I have no way of knowing whether the allegations of forwarding personal babble-mails and e-mails are valid or not, but if they are, administrative focus on a solution to that would be important if forum members are going to feel safe using these ways of communicating.
Posted by emilyp on December 15, 2009, at 23:06:12
In reply to Re: In Phillipa's defense, posted by willyeee on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:38
You may be comfortable with others posting information about your mental health. But many others may not be. This comment relates to the broader issue (not just the incidents that are being debated on this thread). Individuals with mental health issues have different views about how public they want to be and those differences should be respected. I don't think you can assume everyone has the same views about 'being public' as you do. In many ways, it is not too different than the issue of whether a gay/lesbian person is out - there are great differences.
Posted by BayLeaf on December 17, 2009, at 6:04:58
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Bob - aren't bmails supposed to follow all civility rules too?
I thought that was a policy somewhere?
bay
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2009, at 8:11:25
In reply to Re: please be civil, clarification request » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on December 17, 2009, at 6:04:58
> Bob - aren't bmails supposed to follow all civility rules too?
Right, I can confirm whether babblemail is genuine and block someone from sending them:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#babblemail
Bob
Posted by BayLeaf on December 17, 2009, at 18:04:29
In reply to Re: clarification request, posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2009, at 8:11:25
So if we think a poster is violating the civility rules via bmail, we can email you and you might block them from being able to send bmail to anyone. Got it.
Bay
Posted by Maxime on December 17, 2009, at 21:23:45
In reply to Phillipa, posted by RocketMan on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:26
Phillipa, I also didn't like it when you sent me a babble mail saying that you knew what I looked like. Apparently another member had shared a pic with you. I didn't feel harrassed, just extremely annoyed.
My life is private with the exception of what I post on PB.
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