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Posted by Diva Blue on September 25, 2003, at 13:05:04
In reply to Shelly480, posted by lil' jimi on September 25, 2003, at 11:47:44
Hello all.
I have dealt w/ depression for about the last 15 yrs of my life (which is almost half my life...dont start doing math!). I have been on Zoloft (developed a tolerance) and then on Prozac (seems to help, but never quite made it to 100%), stopped Celexa b/c of headaches, turned down a scrip for Paxil CR (have you read THEIR website?!?!) and now I am about to start taking Lexapro. The one thing I liked about Celexa was I had less appetite (good for me..I am a little overweight). I am wondering...anyone on Lex...how does it affect your appetite? I am interested in hearing from anyone who switched from celexa to lexaprothanks
Posted by MickiBear on September 25, 2003, at 13:05:35
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal Dizziness » Micheke, posted by kayenna on July 26, 2003, at 22:53:18
I have been off Lexapro for about a week now and I am dying with the dizziness. Can anyone out there tell me how long it took before that stopped?
Posted by lil' jimi on September 25, 2003, at 13:56:38
In reply to Re: Lexapro stop working???, posted by MandyJane on September 25, 2003, at 12:54:30
hi MandyJane,
you've got a month on me .... i've been on lex since march ...
... really Really sorry it's not helping you now ...
... i am having to keep a list here ... let me see ...
... okay, we have
Galkeepinon
Banab
Sussus
maybe Mariposa, sorta
Patty
and now, you ...
... who have had relapse-like experiences later in your lexapro treatment ... ... well after any initial adaptaion SEs anyway ....... what dose are you taking now ?
... can you up your dose, as Mariposa suggests ?i am very sorry for your suffering and i very much appreciate you writing to us here about it ... ... we can use all of the reports we can get ...
lately i've begun to see suggestions of lexapro-"poop out"-syndrome here, but even with all of the cases here ... it would seem to be a very small class of our lex users ... ... _Not_ to say that every single one of us is anything less than precious ... because we all need each other here .... but, (imho), i feel that the evidence so far still does not support this as an universal lex syndrome because there are many users who have continued to be relieved at eight months and more ....
... here for all it's worth is My Own Theory about these lex-mid-treatment-relapses ....
... ... i think of our (individual) neurochemical/intrasynaptic dynamic equilibriums (equilibria?) in the abstract, as if it's an object, such as one of the solids from geometry, like a sphere or and ellipsoid ... ... whereas it is actually a resonating fluid composed of a jillion particles, each one being a neurotransmitter or one of their relatives ... all buzzing around on their uptake paths and their re-uptakes ...
... i envision lexapro as impacting this neurochemical cloud by changing these vibrations among the particles to improve the equilibrium ...
i just imagine (using the pictures i was trying to draw) that lexapro may achieve an early stable equilibrium only to have the system (cloud, object, solid, whatever) compensate for it after an interval , and then needing a higher dose to re-stabilize our neurotransmitter dynamics back up to their higher, recovered equilibrium ... ... with a to-be-hoped-for higher serotonin levels ....
try to hang in there
... ... actually to respond to your suggestion: ... i do not know about issues that medication won't help ... i know they won't help my financial issues, not directly anyway .... but when it comes to emotional disorders, i tend to think that folks will need neurotransmitter support to aid their recovery ... ...
thanks for posting!
TAKE CARE !!!
~ jim
Posted by KimberlyDi on September 25, 2003, at 14:11:16
In reply to Lexapro vs. Family, posted by Arrianna on September 24, 2003, at 14:47:25
I adore success stories! I experienced my profound life change on Effexor. It's wonderful to look at life without fear.
KDi in Texas
> Hi all!
>
> Just wanted to let ya' all know that my weekend with my family went great-went so much better than I could have ever expected!!
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> I owe it all to the miracle of Lexapro and our wonderful board here. Before Lex, I had such a difficult time connecting with my family. I had incredible anxiety around my family which was a huge issue for me.
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> This weekend was the first time in sooooo long that I truly felt a part of and connected with my family!! It was absolutely a joy. I know it's all because of the benefits of Lex! Lexapro has allowed me to be myself and not take things (life, myself) so seriously. So, we just had a fun time laughing and joking with one another. Oh yeah, we got my grandma all moved, too, which helped to take the focus off myself for a change. Lol. I am so grateful.
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> Thanks again for all your support. I haven't been posting that much this week because I just started a new job on Monday. I'm really enjoying it so far, but, it's a complete schedule change for me, so I've been exhausted by the time I'm done with work. I'm wondering if now would be a sensible time to change the time of my dose from early evening to mornings. What do you think??
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> Anyway, glad to be back. I missed the board when I was away!!
>
> Arrianna
Posted by johnny b good on September 25, 2003, at 15:45:31
In reply to stopping Lexapro... doctor wants me to try Zoloft, posted by collegekid on August 31, 2003, at 22:19:21
Collegekid, sorry to hear about your side-effects.
I have had them as well but they have tapered to almost nothing as I am in day 34. Now if the Lex would just kick in I would be happy. About your issues with the abuse from the past, please get counseling for yourself and I would think sooner is better than later. These issues should be openly discussed with a professional who has had succes in dealing with the like. This is something that shouldn't be expected to remain dormant for a life time. If AD's help you to get through a difficult time in your life then good but I urge you to get into counseling as soon as possible and attack this issue from every angle. I have two grown daughters and this is the same advice that I would give them if they were in your shoes. Go girl.
Posted by Esmarelda on September 25, 2003, at 16:14:43
In reply to Don't know what to do , posted by txngrrl on September 24, 2003, at 18:58:08
Most of us cannot overcome it by willpower as I thought I should be able to. Take your Lex. It's a miracle drug. There are some bad times befor it gets better. It took me 5 -6 weeks on 10 mg and recently I had to up it to 15 mgs. Take care and hang in there. Your b/f doesn't know everything.
Posted by Tracie on September 25, 2003, at 16:52:02
In reply to Re: Don't know what to do , posted by mph-speedy on September 25, 2003, at 11:29:15
Ok, here's the deal. I just went to my dr a couple of days ago because I have been on Celexa for a year now. I have gained 20 POUNDS within the last 7 months alone!!!! She said she was going to switch me to Lexapro so I would hopefully stop gaining weight and have less of an appetite. I haven't started it yet, but from what I've read from all of you is that I can expect withdraw symptoms and dehydration. Also, I read on Lexapro's website that it is and MAOI. Is this true? If so, I don't want to take it. I'd rather just try and ween myself off of the celexa and deal with my anxiety and panic. Or, do you guys think it would be best to do that anyway and then go to the Lexapro?? All of your advice would be appreciated! Thank you in advance! ~Tracie
Posted by Shelly480 on September 25, 2003, at 20:20:24
In reply to Shelly480, posted by lil' jimi on September 25, 2003, at 11:47:44
Lil Jimi
Thanks for the Kind words and for the Information.
You asked about my dose's I take 30mg buspar and 900mg time release Lithium and Lex is 10 mg a day.
I do have to becareful when reading post cause I can adapt a S/E if I read about it too much. Like last night I was reading about headache's and I could of swore I was getting one. LOL. But today dont have one.
It has taken me a long time to come to terms with my Mental illness. I have done it with only the support of people like you and who post here and the support I have in my life.
I will write more later. I have to get to a meeting.
Shelly480
Posted by hog80ci on September 25, 2003, at 21:14:59
In reply to Don't know what to do , posted by txngrrl on September 24, 2003, at 18:58:08
I had to throw in my two cents worth. I just checked my calendar to find out how long I've been on Lexapro. It's been about 6 weeks and the positive effects have begun. They were so subtle I barely noticed them. Seems like I just started to feel better, less depressed and anxious.
I'm sorry your friend won't support your decision to take meds. I think some folks are a little frightened by the idea of soemone they know being on psych meds. Yes, there are side effects to all of them and unfortunately, it's a little hard to tell which ones you will experience. Most of them seem to be temporary. You will have to decide if they are worth it to you or not.
My experience with Lex involved pretty significant nausea for about two weeks. I also felt like I was on some kind of low grade speed. Both of those have passed now. I do still clench my jaw and need to be concious of that. There are some sexual side effects that seem to center around delayed ejaculation but it doesn't happen all of the time. Lex is taking the edge off of my depresion and I am glad about that.
I hope you will get the support you need. If not at home, then come to this site and vent away. We've all been there.
Take care
Jim
Posted by theo on September 25, 2003, at 22:43:24
In reply to Re: Don't know what to do , posted by hog80ci on September 25, 2003, at 21:14:59
When I tried Lex several months ago when it was the hot new SSRI, the doc just said start with 10mg, with this one you just start at that dose and no major side effects. Well after 6-8 weeks, I had to drop out because of continued nausea, stiff neck and tiredness. My pdoc talked me into tryin it again and start with just 2.5mg for 5 days then 5mg for ten days and if I feel the need, go to 10mg. Just made the jump to 5mg and still no nausea or tiredness, just a little agitation but nothing like before. Seems like Forest would label Lex's sample packs with new info stating dosage options, I bet there would be a lot lower drop out rate. There's actually info showing Lex to have a higher percent responders at 5mg and 20mg than 10mg for anxiety at 4 weeks and even 12 weeks. Kinda strange??
Posted by blkvettes on September 26, 2003, at 1:19:17
In reply to Starting Lex with low dose VS 10mg much better!, posted by theo on September 25, 2003, at 22:43:24
> When I tried Lex several months ago when it was the hot new SSRI, the doc just said start with 10mg, with this one you just start at that dose and no major side effects. Well after 6-8 weeks, I had to drop out because of continued nausea, stiff neck and tiredness. My pdoc talked me into tryin it again and start with just 2.5mg for 5 days then 5mg for ten days and if I feel the need, go to 10mg. Just made the jump to 5mg and still no nausea or tiredness, just a little agitation but nothing like before. Seems like Forest would label Lex's sample packs with new info stating dosage options, I bet there would be a lot lower drop out rate. There's actually info showing Lex to have a higher percent responders at 5mg and 20mg than 10mg for anxiety at 4 weeks and even 12 weeks. Kinda strange??
If shrinks were better trained and had some common sense they would start everyone off on a low dose and very slowly move it up. This problem exists on every board I go to!!!!! TAKE CARE!!!
WAYNE
Posted by blkvettes on September 26, 2003, at 1:23:55
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal Dizziness, posted by MickiBear on September 25, 2003, at 13:05:35
> I have been off Lexapro for about a week now and I am dying with the dizziness. Can anyone out there tell me how long it took before that stopped?
Quit cold turkey huh, not really a good idea. This could last a few days, maybe a week, maybe a month, its hard to tell!!!!! TAKE CARE!!!!!!!
Posted by blkvettes on September 26, 2003, at 1:37:20
In reply to Anyone have weight gain???, posted by Tracie on September 25, 2003, at 16:52:02
> Ok, here's the deal. I just went to my dr a couple of days ago because I have been on Celexa for a year now. I have gained 20 POUNDS within the last 7 months alone!!!! She said she was going to switch me to Lexapro so I would hopefully stop gaining weight and have less of an appetite. I haven't started it yet, but from what I've read from all of you is that I can expect withdraw symptoms and dehydration. Also, I read on Lexapro's website that it is and MAOI. Is this true? If so, I don't want to take it. I'd rather just try and ween myself off of the celexa and deal with my anxiety and panic. Or, do you guys think it would be best to do that anyway and then go to the Lexapro?? All of your advice would be appreciated! Thank you in advance! ~Tracie
Celexa and lexapro are both ssri's, lexapro is the new version of celexa. There is no guarantee you will lose weight. We are so different, this is all trial and error. My advice is if the celexa is working to join a gym and exercize like crazy. Watch what you eat and drink. Water, drink lots of water!!!!!! I have seen people get their disorders under control. Switch meds and their disorders come back and they are unable to get them under control again. Think carefully before you switch!!!!!!!! TAKE CARE!!!!!!
WAYNE
Posted by Shelly480 on September 26, 2003, at 4:10:51
In reply to Re: Don't know what to do, posted by blkvettes on September 25, 2003, at 3:50:25
Manic depressive. Yes they are kind of the same I think in a way. Except My Highs are very low and My Lows are extreme. I go from homicidial to suicidal. Mostly in the suicidal state.
They had me on well burtrin and Depakote while back and the well burtrin Made me extremly Angery. That when I stop taking Meds. Cause I rather be suicidal then Homicidal. I really hope that this Lex and lithium work. No angery feelings after day 3 so far so good.
Shelly480
Posted by Peter on September 26, 2003, at 6:51:42
In reply to re: Day 19 » Peter , posted by lil' jimi on September 25, 2003, at 12:19:16
Ok. Today is day 21.
Now, I don't want to jinx myself by saying this, but I think I'm beginning to feel the therapeutic effects; I feel like a cloud has been lifted (except I still wake up feeling foggy and hungover), many of my SE's have abated, I'm more energetic, etc.
Because I've been so depressed the last few weeks, I've been pretty socially avoidant and I've been isolating a lot. This is a rut that I get into often when I'm very symptomatic. And even though I think I might be beginning to feel better, I still get those feelings of anticipatory anxiety when faced with going out or meeting people. So the hard part now is pushing myself a bit to get out of my isolation so that I could see if the lex is helping my social anxiety. It's very tough for me to do. But, I guess I'll just take things one step at a time; the fact that my depression alone seems to be lifting is enough to celebrate about! I just hope I don't fall right back into depression again; this happened to me at the beginning of week 2 - I thought I was beginning to feel better, but it didn't stick - I ended up feeling awful again by the end of the same day. That's why I'm always afraid to admit to myself and others that I think I'm feeling better, because it might just be another 'deceiving improvement.' But enough of that. I've gotta stay positive, solidify in my mind that the damn med is beginning to work instead of second-guessing, and begin to look forward to the lex continuing to help with other areas of my illness, like social anxiety, etc. Let's hope this is really the beginning of getting better!
thanks,
Peter
Posted by MandyJane on September 26, 2003, at 7:33:35
In reply to re: Lexapro stop working??? » MandyJane, posted by lil' jimi on September 25, 2003, at 13:56:38
Thanks lil'jimi for the encouragement. I really appreciate it. I've upped my dose to 20mg. I don't know if I can up it any more than that. I have a call in to my dr. Its kind of strange to talk about all of this stuff with strangers. I can see that you guys are a big support to oneanother.
Yeah, I'm not expecting the financial issues to go away either. Unfortunately. I've felt more feelings of rejection from friends, jealousy, and insecurity than I used to. I don't know if they are related to the depression or are new things in friendships that I need to work through.
Posted by vandy on September 26, 2003, at 8:18:43
In reply to Starting Lex with low dose VS 10mg much better!, posted by theo on September 25, 2003, at 22:43:24
I think the side effects are well documented in the physician's information but the dossage is so patient specific that your suggestion might have unintended consequences. In my case, I started out with 20 mg. My only side effect was being tired and that disappeared. But even at 20 mg. it took a respectable period before I received benefits. Had I started out with a lower dose I would probably have quit for a different reason...lack of positive results. I shudder to think of that. I say prayers for Forest Labs and Lex. What should be happening is good counselling. Maybe they should give Dr. Bob's URL to all internet-enabled patients.
Posted by Esmarelda on September 26, 2003, at 9:27:03
In reply to cel vs lex weight, posted by Diva Blue on September 25, 2003, at 13:05:04
I am not near as hungry when taking Lexapro. I have lost about 5 pounds in 3 or so months since beginning Lexapro. Good luck!
Posted by Esmarelda on September 26, 2003, at 9:30:27
In reply to feeling a bit better?!, posted by Peter on September 26, 2003, at 6:51:42
YEAH PETER!!!! Glad you are feeling better. There will still be some low days, but hang in there! Congrats!
Posted by Peter on September 26, 2003, at 9:37:01
In reply to Peter, -gonna keep holding on, but need support, posted by McPac on September 24, 2003, at 18:35:09
> I've started Lexapro recently just like you and YES, I have definitely been very cold while on it! Hopefully that will get better soon. And these friggin Lexapro "jitters", geez, this stuff seems to cause anxiety and jitters in most folks...can't wait for that crap to wear off...what do they put in this stuff anyway?! Take care dude...I do say stick with it for awhile though, it should adjust eventually!
>>Hey McPac:
Just curious: Are you still feeling really cold on lex? I started today on a good note, feeling like my depression was lifting and my SE's were decreased. But Man! I've never been so freezing in my life. And the weather isn't cold! I'm wearing 3 layers and every slight breeze that hits me sends me shivering. What's up with that??
Posted by Esmarelda on September 26, 2003, at 9:40:45
In reply to Still Freezing! » McPac, posted by Peter on September 26, 2003, at 9:37:01
That's odd. At first, I sweat like a stuck pig on the stuff - haha! Just goes to show you it affects everyone different!
Posted by ginger C on September 26, 2003, at 9:46:31
In reply to Re: Lexapro stop working???, posted by MandyJane on September 25, 2003, at 12:54:30
My doctor put me on Lexapro about a year ago in conjunction with welbutrin and the combination has worked really well for me. I am a bipolar I
and we previously had a lot of trouble getting anti depressants to work.
Posted by MickiBear on September 26, 2003, at 9:49:04
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal Dizziness, posted by blkvettes on September 26, 2003, at 1:23:55
I actually weaned myself off. I was originally taken 10mg a day, then went to 5, then went to 5 every other day. Then I went off completely.
So no one out there has gone off and made it through the withdrawal?
Posted by jjalruby on September 26, 2003, at 11:53:51
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal Dizziness, posted by blkvettes on September 26, 2003, at 1:23:55
I also just quit cold turkey. I guess it wasn't that great of an idea cause I am really hurting with all the dizziness also. I had been on it for just about 5 months and have gained 20 lbs. The weight gain was so fast and ridiculous...i had to stop. Does anyone know how long the dizziness does last for???
Posted by Diva Blue on September 26, 2003, at 14:44:07
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal Dizziness » blkvettes, posted by jjalruby on September 26, 2003, at 11:53:51
Hello all...
Hoping that Lex is going to work. Feel better today than I have in a while. SEs seem to be subsiding, although I am still cold...is it freezing in here??....
anxious to see if appetite returns or if I will continue to have the blessing of it being reduced.
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