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Posted by Office_LB on July 1, 2003, at 15:58:09
In reply to re: Lexapro , insurance Won't cover!! AAARRRGGH!! » BBoo, posted by lil' jimi on July 1, 2003, at 14:58:24
> hey Wayne!
> hi BBoo!
>
> i am very upset to hear this!
>
> > > > hi BBoo,
> > > > sorry to hear your having such trouble ... it can be hard to quit an SSRI ... i appreciate your post ... thanks!
> > > > ... so why would your insurance quit covering your lexapro?
> > > > take good care of yourself and let us hear from you!
> > > > ~ jim
> > >
> > > I had to fight about a month for my insurance to cover it. The reason being it cost more than other meds because its new. They wanted me to try something else first. It was like hello, I have already been on 2 other meds. TAKE CARE!!!
> > > WAYNE
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hi, same here, they paid part of it this last year but today the new fiscal year starts and it's not on the "preferred list" so they pay hardly anything (and you know it's VERY expensive) and it won't count toward my deductible or the stop-loss total. Plus my other 3 Rx co-pays all double today, too. And the premiums, deductibles, office co-pays, etc. all go up, too. But I only got a 1.5% cost-of-living "raise" this year! Ain't life grand?!
> >
>
> clueless me! ... i had No Idea!! ... ... i am outraged!!
>
> How in the World can we endure our insurance companies choosing which anti-deprerssant / SSRI we should use !!!!!
>
> <insert sound of scream here!!>
>
> i only WISH my outrage could do anybody any good!!
>
> AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
>
> how many people are having to endure this ABUSE ! !!!!
> It IS WRONG !!!
>
> i co-pay $25 for 30 10mg pills of lex ... about 84 cents a pill .... How much does lex retail for really? .... what AD does your insurance "prescribe"?
>
> i am angry!!
> ~ jimMy copay is $25 as well. But my doseage is 20 mg/day so that 30 20 mg pills. I saw the sheet that said how much it cost retail and I believe it was $78.
Hope this helps.
Posted by lil' jimi on July 1, 2003, at 16:16:56
In reply to Thanks lil jimi!!! (NM)re: how to get specific lex (nm), posted by McPac on June 30, 2003, at 23:37:49
Posted by theo on July 1, 2003, at 16:47:12
In reply to re: you are very welcomed McPac:: Good luck! (nm) » McPac, posted by lil' jimi on July 1, 2003, at 16:16:56
Posted by lil' jimi on July 1, 2003, at 17:55:50
In reply to Are you still taking Lexapro?? (nm) » lil' jimi, posted by theo on July 1, 2003, at 16:47:12
Posted by Office_LB on July 2, 2003, at 10:03:05
In reply to re: Yes:: 10mg/day for last 2 months (nm) » theo, posted by lil' jimi on July 1, 2003, at 17:55:50
It's annoying!
Posted by theo on July 2, 2003, at 10:11:43
In reply to Don't use the subject field to communicate!, posted by Office_LB on July 2, 2003, at 10:03:05
I guess if it's annoying they shouldn't have a box in the posting area to check reading "no message, just post above subject"!!!!! Go take your meds and quit whining.
Posted by lil' jimi on July 2, 2003, at 10:24:18
In reply to Don't use the subject field to communicate!, posted by Office_LB on July 2, 2003, at 10:03:05
hi Office_LB,
From: Office_LB
Re: Don't use the subject field to communicate!
> It's annoying!okay ....
sorry about that ... ...
hadn't meant to annoy / thought anyone would be
annoyed.fwiw, it's a regular practice here ...
and the reason why Dr. Bob offers us the
"no message, just post above subject"
option on our
"Enter Your Post" window ... ...
... ... just in case you had not noticed ...however, if this is annoying you, i can write out my messages down here in the ol' message body, just like i am now, No Problemo ... ...
so how's that? eh?
TAKE CARE !!!
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on July 2, 2003, at 10:37:01
In reply to Re: Don't use the subject field to communicate! » Office_LB, posted by theo on July 2, 2003, at 10:11:43
hi theo,
i share your sentiments, but we know we can't really express them that way here ... ... we are blessed that our civility police are watching ....
... ... and we can reasonably expect (because we have taken our meds) (well, i don't take my 10mg of Lexapro until noon yet ...) that telling folks to "stop their whining" will be considered kind of uncivil like, you know .... ........ .... (of course, me accusing you of being uncivil might be considered a put down and it could make you feel bad, And therfore i would be guilty of being uncivil to you, too (!) ... ... i have not meant to offend you nor bum you out either, man ... really)
hang in there!
~ jim
Posted by theo on July 2, 2003, at 11:02:46
In reply to Re: Don't use the subject field to communicate! » theo, posted by lil' jimi on July 2, 2003, at 10:37:01
My direction was a little sarcastic humor but I understand people easily annoyed may not take it that way. Point taken.
Posted by lil' jimi on July 2, 2003, at 12:39:12
In reply to Re: Don't use the subject field to communicate! » lil' jimi, posted by theo on July 2, 2003, at 11:02:46
hi theo,
> My direction was a little sarcastic humor but I understand people easily annoyed may not take it that way. Point taken.
dude, you're way cool! thanks for being a good sport, man!
i really apprecaite it that you didn't take it wrong .... (and that we've laid off doing what is a prefectly legit thing to do ... after all, it is the typical way Dr. Bob, himself, communicates with us .... .... but heckfire, we can be cool! ... it ain't all that tough, if it's bugging anyone ...
thanks again,
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on July 2, 2003, at 13:04:46
In reply to re: Lexapro , insurance Won't cover!! AAARRRGGH!!, posted by Office_LB on July 1, 2003, at 15:58:09
hi Office_LB,
>
> My copay is $25 as well. But my doseage is 20 mg/day so that 30 20 mg pills. I saw the sheet that said how much it cost retail and I believe it was $78.
>
> Hope this helps.thanks for your post and i appreciate the info ...
.. of course our co-pays set amounts for like 30 day supply, independent of that dose per pill ... which of course explains what looks like you're getting a bargain compared to me: twice the lex at the same "price" (copay) .... but you know all that ... ...whereas we may believe the $78 (or whatever price) is a real world patient cost and would be like $2.60/20mg pill ... compared to your 84cents/pill ... ... maybe ... i could try to look up online prices for lex ...
more to my point is the very idea of ANYONE (other than your own health care professional and your own self) choosing your antidepressant
IS INSANE !!!!!!!
thanks for letting me vent some more!
~ jim
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2003, at 18:10:12
In reply to Don't use the subject field to communicate!, posted by Office_LB on July 2, 2003, at 10:03:05
> It's annoying!
What's annoying about it?
Bob
Posted by stjames on July 2, 2003, at 23:06:43
In reply to Re: using the subject field to communicate, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2003, at 18:10:12
This board has been in existance for several years, and some posting styles are very common.
You might want to take a look at the archives
to see the way things work here.
Posted by Office_LB on July 3, 2003, at 10:25:28
In reply to Re: using the subject field to communicate, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2003, at 18:10:12
fdsafd
Posted by KimberlyDi on July 3, 2003, at 15:34:26
In reply to Never mind about the subject field thing (nm), posted by Office_LB on July 3, 2003, at 10:25:28
Posted by BLKVETTES on July 3, 2003, at 17:38:58
In reply to Never mind re: subject field thing - fdsafd??? :) (nm) » Office_LB, posted by KimberlyDi on July 3, 2003, at 15:34:26
Hi there, you probably dont want to really know.
WAYNE
Posted by Office_LB on July 3, 2003, at 21:00:54
In reply to re: Yes:: 10mg/day for last 2 months (nm) » theo, posted by lil' jimi on July 1, 2003, at 17:55:50
I feel really smart now.
Not to worry.
It's the LEx making me absent minded. :)
Posted by McPac on July 3, 2003, at 23:12:13
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
I was wondering if any of you folks felt DIFFERENTLY on Celexa than you did on Lexapro? I too have felt Lexapro's anxiety side effects (I've only been on it 3 or 4 days)....but when I took one of my mom's Celexa tabs a couple of weeks ago, I didn't get that feeling at all...it just made me feel sort of tired (mellow)...of course I only took ONE Celexa pill for just ONE day, just to see what sort of reaction I'd get....but, again, have any/many folks mentioned that Lexapro makes them feel differently than Celexa? If so, how?
THANKS!!!
Posted by BLKVETTES on July 4, 2003, at 2:56:35
In reply to Is there a real difference between Celexa Lex?, posted by McPac on July 3, 2003, at 23:12:13
> I was wondering if any of you folks felt DIFFERENTLY on Celexa than you did on Lexapro? I too have felt Lexapro's anxiety side effects (I've only been on it 3 or 4 days)....but when I took one of my mom's Celexa tabs a couple of weeks ago, I didn't get that feeling at all...it just made me feel sort of tired (mellow)...of course I only took ONE Celexa pill for just ONE day, just to see what sort of reaction I'd get....but, again, have any/many folks mentioned that Lexapro makes them feel differently than Celexa? If so, how?
> THANKS!!!
>
>Hi there, if Im correct your either taking zoloft or coming off it right. When coming off zoloft one of the symptoms can be anxiety. So when we dont wean of a med before starting another we really have no clue which med is giving us the symptoms or side effects. So at this point no one could tell you if it is the zoloft or the lexapro. Im not saying what the doc is having you do is wrong. Because you would get a different answer from each doc. So you really have to wait 30 days before the zoloft is out of your system. When I first started meds I was on paxil, then zoloft and xanax. I was truly messed up. The doc wanted me to start a new med. I refused and went cold turkey which was wrong. I should have weaned myself off everything. But after 30 days or so I got my senses back in order.I then went to lexapro and anything I felt, there was no confusion on which med was causing what. TAKE CARE!!!
WAYNE
Posted by kinsey on July 4, 2003, at 19:13:05
In reply to re: Lexapro , insurance won't cover?, posted by BBoo on July 1, 2003, at 13:21:17
My insurance company would only pay half even though they listed it as not being covered. i think the total cost was 60 something and i ended up paying 30 something. boy - have i gotten an education regarding insurance companies and mental health!! i've been having a hard time finding a good psych. who is covered by my insurance company!! talk about run-around - they so far have given me three names of doctors, only to find out when i call that the doctors dropped this insurance company years ago. they (the insurance monsters) said they forgot to update???? very frustrating. how can this be? kinsey
Posted by BLKVETTES on July 4, 2003, at 19:14:20
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by teriwynn on January 8, 2003, at 10:50:37
I found this link interesting about how people think about meds and side effects.
WAYNE
http://panicdisorder.about.com/features/blmed1.htm
Posted by BLKVETTES on July 4, 2003, at 19:33:16
In reply to re: Lexapro , insurance won't cover?, posted by kinsey on July 4, 2003, at 19:13:05
> My insurance company would only pay half even though they listed it as not being covered. i think the total cost was 60 something and i ended up paying 30 something. boy - have i gotten an education regarding insurance companies and mental health!! i've been having a hard time finding a good psych. who is covered by my insurance company!! talk about run-around - they so far have given me three names of doctors, only to find out when i call that the doctors dropped this insurance company years ago. they (the insurance monsters) said they forgot to update???? very frustrating. how can this be? kinsey
Hi Kinsey, yes they are monsters!!!!! Our insurance carrier changed the first of the year and they tried to switch all the meds I take. I pay nothing for pdoc visits but I can only choose a doc from this one group who all use the same office. I have been through 4 of them in a short time. I just made up my mind to educate myself and see the doc for my meds. The insurance companies pay out over 40 billion dollars a year because doctors fail to detect anxiety and panic disorders at the very beginning. People keep running back to the ER or their family doctor because they think they are dying. I ran up a bill of over 100,000 dollars before I was diagnosed. The insurance company payed every dime of it. But they want to fight me over my meds which is pennies compared to what they spent. The doctors need to be better educated on these disorders. But then again they make more money by running the same tests over and over again. GOOD LUCK!!!
WAYNE
Posted by nhg on July 5, 2003, at 16:56:54
In reply to re: Lexapro , insurance won't cover?, posted by BLKVETTES on July 4, 2003, at 19:33:16
Maybe I won't make any friends with this belief, but I really don't think insurance companies are *always* monsters. I too was disappointed to find out that my insurance would only cover lexapro in part (I pay $35 copay) but at least they cover part of it. I don't know everyone's particulars, but sometimes I think for how little I pay for insurance (my costs are less than the retail cost of lexapro - I'm sure some of you pay much more), it's a pretty good deal to know that I'll be covered in a big expensive traumatic emergency. I'm sure some of you have had or heard of bad experiences with insurance companies who wouldn't cover people's huge bills - I have too - but I'm saving my complaints for those situations when they really are evil instead of my $35 co-pay. I've always gotten more out of insurance than I've paid in (not including my employer's contibution), which I think is remarkable.
That's how I feel given my personal experience. I'm not particularly a fan of insurance companies, I'm just saying this to maybe give you another point of view so you won't be so angry about things that are, for the most part, out of our control.
Posted by McPac on July 5, 2003, at 23:54:20
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
The study I read says that there's very little difference between 10 and 20 mg of Lexapro.
So if someone took the 10 mg dosage and that didn't do enough, then they're screwed? I mean, with other meds such as Zoloft for example, you try 50mg...if you don't feel enough effect, you could increase to 75....then 100....then 150 if need be...and so on. But with lex it's just take the 10 mg. and if that doesn't have enough anti-depressant effect or ocd effect, then there's nothing you can do???? One dosage either works or that's it? What the Hell? OCD'ers typically need a higher dose of a med than for depressives---so how is 10 lousy mg's going to do the job? Never heard of a 'one-dosage' med before, again, so if 10 mg isn't doing the job then that's it, nothing you can do but drop it and try another? Makes no sense. Anybody get a better effect at 20 mg than 10? Anybody taking MORE than 20 mg? Thanks!
Posted by BLKVETTES on July 6, 2003, at 1:32:16
In reply to Lexapro Dosing...10 mg or bust??????, posted by McPac on July 5, 2003, at 23:54:20
> The study I read says that there's very little difference between 10 and 20 mg of Lexapro.
> So if someone took the 10 mg dosage and that didn't do enough, then they're screwed? I mean, with other meds such as Zoloft for example, you try 50mg...if you don't feel enough effect, you could increase to 75....then 100....then 150 if need be...and so on. But with lex it's just take the 10 mg. and if that doesn't have enough anti-depressant effect or ocd effect, then there's nothing you can do???? One dosage either works or that's it? What the Hell? OCD'ers typically need a higher dose of a med than for depressives---so how is 10 lousy mg's going to do the job? Never heard of a 'one-dosage' med before, again, so if 10 mg isn't doing the job then that's it, nothing you can do but drop it and try another? Makes no sense. Anybody get a better effect at 20 mg than 10? Anybody taking MORE than 20 mg? Thanks!Hi there, I have read that also. There are others taking 20mg or higher and doing fine. I take 7 mg and it has been my magic dose. I at one time was housebound and suicidal and had terrible anxiety. Dont get so far ahead of yourself. Try to just wait and see what happens. By the way this board gets slow sometimes. GOOD LUCK!!!
WAYNE
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