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Posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 5:20:48
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » EGR, posted by Ritch on December 18, 2002, at 22:09:29
> > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
>
> I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
>
____________________________I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
Does anyone know why this occures?
J.
Posted by Ritch on December 21, 2002, at 8:26:31
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » Ritch, posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 5:20:48
> > > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
> >
> > I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
> >
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> I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
>
> My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
>
> Does anyone know why this occures?
>
> J.
>
Every response I have read here that attempts to explain the etiology boils down to some interference with dopaminergic functioning that SSRI's apparently cause (more or less). Some folks even believe it is med-induced pseudoparkinsonism similar to what antipsychotics can cause. However, most of the stuff you hear about can often happen to people not even taking them (such as nightime jaw grinding-restless legs syndrome, etc.). Obviously they do involve motor circuits and they certainly are annoying. That is interesting about your experience with Depakote. The most significant "motor symptom" I got with it was fairly significant left-hand tremor at higher doses. I could hold my hands out straight and they would stay fairly still for a few moments, but then my left-hand would "let go" and flap (quite a distance) a few times and stop (etc.). Some folks are just sensitive to these motor side effects and may need to stop/switch meds to avoid them.
Posted by panicbutton on December 21, 2002, at 8:37:33
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » J. Wesley, posted by Ritch on December 21, 2002, at 8:26:31
> > > > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
> > >
> > > I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
> > >
> > ____________________________
> >
> > I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
> >
> > My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this occures?
> >
> > J.
> >
>
>
> Every response I have read here that attempts to explain the etiology boils down to some interference with dopaminergic functioning that SSRI's apparently cause (more or less). Some folks even believe it is med-induced pseudoparkinsonism similar to what antipsychotics can cause. However, most of the stuff you hear about can often happen to people not even taking them (such as nightime jaw grinding-restless legs syndrome, etc.). Obviously they do involve motor circuits and they certainly are annoying. That is interesting about your experience with Depakote. The most significant "motor symptom" I got with it was fairly significant left-hand tremor at higher doses. I could hold my hands out straight and they would stay fairly still for a few moments, but then my left-hand would "let go" and flap (quite a distance) a few times and stop (etc.). Some folks are just sensitive to these motor side effects and may need to stop/switch meds to avoid them.
>I, too, have noticed increased muscle tightness in the neck and shoulders. Recently, I began experiencing some tension around my mouth and also some muscle twitching there. I blamed in on holiday stress, but now I wonder if it is related to Lexapro.
Posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 9:17:40
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » J. Wesley, posted by Ritch on December 21, 2002, at 8:26:31
> > > > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
> > >
> > > I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
> > >
> > ____________________________
> >
> > I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
> >
> > My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this occures?
> >
> > J.
> >
>
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> Every response I have read here that attempts to explain the etiology boils down to some interference with dopaminergic functioning that SSRI's apparently cause (more or less). Some folks even believe it is med-induced pseudoparkinsonism similar to what antipsychotics can cause. However, most of the stuff you hear about can often happen to people not even taking them (such as nightime jaw grinding-restless legs syndrome, etc.). Obviously they do involve motor circuits and they certainly are annoying. That is interesting about your experience with Depakote. The most significant "motor symptom" I got with it was fairly significant left-hand tremor at higher doses. I could hold my hands out straight and they would stay fairly still for a few moments, but then my left-hand would "let go" and flap (quite a distance) a few times and stop (etc.). Some folks are just sensitive to these motor side effects and may need to stop/switch meds to avoid them._______________________________________
It has been some time since I checked the side effects of depakote, but I seem to remember that when I got ahold of the package insert, there was mention of stiff neck and back pain. I just checked the info about side effects for depakote on rxlist.com and bingo, my memory seems to be intact.
My experience with depakote has been that I can only tolerate 500mgs/day. Anything higher and I have the neck and back pain which was really quite painful. I also had significant cognitive and weight gain problems with depakote.
I wasn't aware other people were having the back and neck problem with lexapro that I ran into, but I recognized it within a few days and drew the correlation to depakote immediately. As a result I didn't have to go through any tapering process cause I had only been on 5mgs/day for about a week when I stopped it.
I have always been leary of the ssri's because there is pretty clear evidence now that long term use of them can, in some people, induce movement disorders similar to TD. It certainly isn't much of a stretch to see how med-induced psuedoparkisonism could account for the back and neck problems. Thanks for your post.
J. Wesley
Posted by dragonfly on December 21, 2002, at 9:26:31
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw, posted by panicbutton on December 21, 2002, at 8:37:33
I too went thru the tightness in my upper back. I at first thought my job had caused it. It doesnt bother me now, I still clench my jaw alot though. This is the first time I have been prescribed any medication for clinical depression. I had a hysterectomy this past June. My depression was blamed on my "female" hormones for years. I never slept, that was the worst. Anxiety was interfering with everything. Then 2 months ago I fell totally apart! My husband INSISTED I go to my gyno to get my hormones checked. I was to the point I couldn't do my job well. Nothing worse than building an oak set of custom cabinet doors one inch too small!! Thank god I work for my dad and he understood something was going on. It took two days to fix and for a week I was on the verge of"being sick" I just couldn't believe I made that BAD of a mistake. It was hard for me to believe I had depression, I had no reason to be depressed! I have a wonderfull husband ( actually a very understanding one) I have a family who loves me. We both have very good jobs, beautifull house. How could I be depressed? Had to be my hormones! I guess in a way it is my hormones.I was shocked when my gyno put me on a anti-deppressant. Now a little over a month later I am very glad he did! I can deal with the clenching jaw chewing gum helps also helps with the dry mouth! I have picked up some little quirks now. I talk 3 times as much as I did before, everyone says I act like I am in a hurry to get things done. My paper work is 100% neater and I clean all the time. I have even started back riding my exercise bike.I am happy my husband is happy my dad(boss) is happy. I hope the side effects don't change or get worse as time goes by.
Posted by EGR on December 21, 2002, at 10:33:23
In reply to Re: depakote, lexapro and back and neck pain » Ritch, posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 9:17:40
My dentist told me about the jaw clenching and teeth grinding s/e, but I didn't associate it with the neck/back. He also said that if I have a problem with dry mouth to let him know and he'll prescribe Rx toothpaste... something about saliva and bacteria. I don't have any problem sleeping and feel fantastic on 10mg... I'm supposed to increase to 20 today, but I don't see any reason to, so I'm not going to. The tightness seems to be lessening.
EGR
Posted by jimmygold70 on December 21, 2002, at 12:22:25
In reply to Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw, posted by newuser2 on December 17, 2002, at 8:50:27
Switch to Paxil.
Jimmy
Posted by ayuda on December 21, 2002, at 12:22:51
In reply to Re: Question about Effexor, posted by jtc on December 20, 2002, at 23:04:51
> Hi everyone,
> I just had a question about Effexor XR. I am currently taking 75 mg once daily for about six months now and I have gained weight and seem to keep gaining weight. Has this happened to anyone else? I also take Klonopin, .5 mg at night for anxiety. I used to take Luvox for about three years and I am starting to think I should just go back on it. Last time I saw my psychiatrist he mentioned that I might try Lexapro but I don't think I want to try it after reading all the info about it. I am not really fond of Effexor either. I have tried many ADs in the past. My problem is GAD and anxiety, panic disorder and some depression. My 8 1/2 year old daughter has just been put on Effexor XR 37.5 mg a day. She has been taking it for about 4 weeks now because she has anxiety that is affecting her school work and her health. She worries about everything, even simple things. I guess she has inherited this from me. I am worried about her taking the Effexor and my husband and I thought it over before we agreed to let her try this. She has been seeing a psychologist as well as the psychiatrist who prescribed the Effexor for her. Her pediatrician even says she thinks the Effexor might be good for her to try. Has anyone had any similar situations like this with their young kids?
> Thanks for the input, JC
I gained 40 pounds since March, all on Effexor XR. In fact, since I've switched to Lexapro, I am having liposuction to get rid of the excess fat that was caused by the Effexor. I am 37 years old (almost 38), and female, and cannot live with this excess fat. I've always been in shape, and even though I gained a little bit of weight on Zoloft and Celexa (10 pounds over a years' time), NOTHING compares to what happened with Effexor. I was also completely nauseated, especially when my doctor took me up to 225mg -- I developed an ulcer after a month on 75 mg -- but my appetite was ravenous. I am so much happier on the Lexapro -- even though it doesn't help my anxiety as well as the Effexor, at least I am not constantly nauseated and burping, and I'm eating normally (even less than normal).
Posted by Sadsack on December 21, 2002, at 17:56:43
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems, posted by mills on December 13, 2002, at 16:54:56
I've been unable to reach orgasm since the Lex 4 weeks ago. Sad, since when I was Depressed and unmedicated I could get there with a kind word from my husband....I'm at my peak and missing it! But the other symptoms are better, so that's good I guess.....So do you all think an addition of wellbutrin would fix this-is it worth a shot? Might it also help with the tense neck and shoulders?
Posted by EGR on December 21, 2002, at 20:27:46
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems, posted by Sadsack on December 21, 2002, at 17:56:43
I'll let you guys know tomorrow. After getting off Wellbutrin and starting Lex (earlier this week), I had my first O since starting on meds (paxil to effexor to wellbuttin) 8 weeks ago. Today's my 6th day on Lex and the desire is sure there... I'm in a good mood too, so we'll see. ;-)
EGR (female, if you're interested)
Posted by comftnumb on December 21, 2002, at 20:48:13
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems, posted by Sadsack on December 21, 2002, at 17:56:43
I took Effexor and Wellbutrin together for 4months and I still had the delayed orgasms caused by Effexor. Unfortunately, I don't think the Wellbutrin can erase the sexual side effects of an SSRI. If you aren't able to get orgasms after a few months you might consider just switching to Wellbutrin.
Posted by sageh1 on December 21, 2002, at 23:16:21
In reply to Re: lexapro 10mg, posted by cody on October 3, 2002, at 18:15:21
I've used Prozac before, and the only side-effect was switching off my libido. I've started taking Lexapro and (granted it's only been a couple of days) it seems to make me wired as all get-up. I mean all day wired. Makes my stomach feel a bit strange, kind of like I'm really hungry but not. Yeah, sounds strange, but I'm normally a pretty down sort of person...always tired. Maybe my doctor accidentally gave me speed :). Am I imagining this, or has anyone else experienced this. I'm gonna keep with it for a bit to see how it goes, but these couple days have been pretty strange.
Posted by BlackSheep on December 22, 2002, at 7:09:28
In reply to lexapro question for all, posted by johnj on December 18, 2002, at 11:12:41
Yes, the sleepiness you are experiencing is quite common and usually subsides within a week.
Posted by panicbutton on December 22, 2002, at 7:56:23
In reply to Re: lexapro 10mg, posted by sageh1 on December 21, 2002, at 23:16:21
> I've used Prozac before, and the only side-effect was switching off my libido. I've started taking Lexapro and (granted it's only been a couple of days) it seems to make me wired as all get-up. I mean all day wired. Makes my stomach feel a bit strange, kind of like I'm really hungry but not. Yeah, sounds strange, but I'm normally a pretty down sort of person...always tired. Maybe my doctor accidentally gave me speed :). Am I imagining this, or has anyone else experienced this. I'm gonna keep with it for a bit to see how it goes, but these couple days have been pretty strange.
I found that Effexor made me feel much the same way you are describing with Lexapro. I am now taking Lexapro at only a 5 mg. dose for anxiety attacks. I was supposed to switch to 10 mg. a day, but when I did, I felt agitated. I went back to 5 mg. a day and am doing well with it. It is interesting that different medications cause different side effects for nearly everyone. Perhaps a lower dose would cause less of the "wired" feeling you are having. I wouldn't change, however, without consulting the doctor who prescribed it for you. Good luck!
Posted by Romulus on December 22, 2002, at 15:11:49
In reply to Re: depakote, lexapro and back and neck pain, posted by EGR on December 21, 2002, at 10:33:23
> My dentist told me about the jaw clenching and teeth grinding s/e, but I didn't associate it with the neck/back. He also said that if I have a problem with dry mouth to let him know and he'll prescribe Rx toothpaste... something about saliva and bacteria. I don't have any problem sleeping and feel fantastic on 10mg... I'm supposed to increase to 20 today, but I don't see any reason to, so I'm not going to. The tightness seems to be lessening.
>
> EGRTo add my personal experience to the mix, I have had issues with teeth grinding and jaw and neck tightness for a long time, since long before I started an AD. My suspicion is that it often comes from agitation. I've had constant agitation and bottled up feelings for years, and it gets worse when I'm conscious of being on a powerful medication. Could it be that some of you are wary of side effects and therefore feel the tightness? I find that the tension goes away if I consciously change my mindset and relax my muscles--leading me to believe it's me not the medication.
Posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 12:39:48
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
> [Posted by ggrrl on June 11, 2002, at 1:19:51]
>
> > Seems like there are a lot of people on here who have talked about Lexapro's improved side-effects, specifically that it has less tiredness and sexual side effects than Celexa. Some have said that it has the same side effects as Celexa. However most people are quoting from press releases - does anyone here know from experience (theirs or others')?
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Yes. I switched from Celexa 80mg a day, to Lexapro 50mg a day.The Celexa caused a terrible fogginess. I felt like my eyes were crossed. That's the only side effect I had but it was extremely annoying. I was always in a sort of a daze.
Now on Lexapro my mind is sharp PLUS the added benefits of the decreased depression, which I had also been experiencing with Celexa.
I would say that the change was very beneficial for me, considering the Lexapro was just as effective as the Celexa but without the brain cloud.
Best of luck to everyone
Iolite
Posted by mills on December 23, 2002, at 13:12:38
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 12:39:48
Iolite, how long have you been on the 50 mg? I am going up to 40 mg soon, and may need to go higher myself.
> > [Posted by ggrrl on June 11, 2002, at 1:19:51]
> >
> > > Seems like there are a lot of people on here who have talked about Lexapro's improved side-effects, specifically that it has less tiredness and sexual side effects than Celexa. Some have said that it has the same side effects as Celexa. However most people are quoting from press releases - does anyone here know from experience (theirs or others')?
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> Yes. I switched from Celexa 80mg a day, to Lexapro 50mg a day.
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> The Celexa caused a terrible fogginess. I felt like my eyes were crossed. That's the only side effect I had but it was extremely annoying. I was always in a sort of a daze.
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> Now on Lexapro my mind is sharp PLUS the added benefits of the decreased depression, which I had also been experiencing with Celexa.
>
> I would say that the change was very beneficial for me, considering the Lexapro was just as effective as the Celexa but without the brain cloud.
>
> Best of luck to everyone
> Iolite
>
Posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 16:16:56
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? Iolite, posted by mills on December 23, 2002, at 13:12:38
Hi. I started the Celexa on Sept 11th, 2001 when all my co-workers were killed. Then it was combined with 2mg Ativan every day. The Celexa started at 60mg and quickly upped to 80mg. I remained there for a long time. About March of 2002 I snapped out of my grief stupor and went back to work, at a new job. That's when I realized that part of my grief stupor was actually the Celexa (interestingly enough, not the Ativan). I am still taking 2mg of Ativan every day and feel great, no side effects. But to remove the brain cloud my doctor swapped the Celexa 80mg for Lexapro 50 mg in one shot. Actually he told me to try 40mg if I didn't want to go all out with the 50mg.So it was a clean swap, you see? Impossible to say actually when I upped my dosage. However, I have steadily been on Lexapro and Ativan since late March 2002 with zero side effects.
How are you feeling on Lexapro? Is it helping you? How long have you been on it?Take care,
Iolite> Iolite, how long have you been on the 50 mg? I am going up to 40 mg soon, and may need to go higher myself.
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> > > [Posted by ggrrl on June 11, 2002, at 1:19:51]
> > >
> > > > Seems like there are a lot of people on here who have talked about Lexapro's improved side-effects, specifically that it has less tiredness and sexual side effects than Celexa. Some have said that it has the same side effects as Celexa. However most people are quoting from press releases - does anyone here know from experience (theirs or others')?
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> > Yes. I switched from Celexa 80mg a day, to Lexapro 50mg a day.
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> > The Celexa caused a terrible fogginess. I felt like my eyes were crossed. That's the only side effect I had but it was extremely annoying. I was always in a sort of a daze.
> >
> > Now on Lexapro my mind is sharp PLUS the added benefits of the decreased depression, which I had also been experiencing with Celexa.
> >
> > I would say that the change was very beneficial for me, considering the Lexapro was just as effective as the Celexa but without the brain cloud.
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> > Best of luck to everyone
> > Iolite
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Posted by EGR on December 23, 2002, at 23:10:45
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? Iolite, posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 16:16:56
My deepest condolences on your tremendous losses Iolite.
So you have absolutely no s/e with the Lexapro + Ativan? Is the Ativan supposed to counteract the Lexapro sse?
I discovered that I do have a sse on the Lexapro, but no where near as bad as with Paxil or Effexor. I've been on 10 mgs a week now.
Blessings on your holidays.
> Hi. I started the Celexa on Sept 11th, 2001 when all my co-workers were killed. Then it was combined with 2mg Ativan every day. The Celexa started at 60mg and quickly upped to 80mg. I remained there for a long time. About March of 2002 I snapped out of my grief stupor and went back to work, at a new job. That's when I realized that part of my grief stupor was actually the Celexa (interestingly enough, not the Ativan). I am still taking 2mg of Ativan every day and feel great, no side effects. But to remove the brain cloud my doctor swapped the Celexa 80mg for Lexapro 50 mg in one shot. Actually he told me to try 40mg if I didn't want to go all out with the 50mg.
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> So it was a clean swap, you see? Impossible to say actually when I upped my dosage. However, I have steadily been on Lexapro and Ativan since late March 2002 with zero side effects.
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> How are you feeling on Lexapro? Is it helping you? How long have you been on it?
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> Take care,
> Iolite
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> > Iolite, how long have you been on the 50 mg? I am going up to 40 mg soon, and may need to go higher myself.
Posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 23:19:31
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? Iolite, posted by EGR on December 23, 2002, at 23:10:45
Thank you. No, no side effects with the Lexapro. This is amazing because I have had some awful side effects with Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, and Wellbutrin, and brain fog with Celexa. But the Lexapro is fabulous in that there are such nil effects that I was actually suspicious of receiving placebos!
The Ativan is not to counteract any effects from anything other than plain old anxiety. I have tremendous anxiety to such a degree and from so many sources that I suffer hair loss, weight loss/gain, sleeplessness, panic attacks, supraventricular tachycardias (12 in one year!), etc. Without the Ativan I am just a mess. In fact the more anxious I become, the more I suffer from allergies -- allergies to grasses, trees, dust, and many ordinary foods. I get "fish face" - that is I swell from inside my throat and up through my face until my eyes bulge out of their sockets. Very pretty!
Gruesome, this anxiety business, isn't it!!
Sleeping far from Seattle,
Iolite
> My deepest condolences on your tremendous losses Iolite.
>
> So you have absolutely no s/e with the Lexapro + Ativan? Is the Ativan supposed to counteract the Lexapro sse?
>
> I discovered that I do have a sse on the Lexapro, but no where near as bad as with Paxil or Effexor. I've been on 10 mgs a week now.
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> Blessings on your holidays.
>
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> > Hi. I started the Celexa on Sept 11th, 2001 when all my co-workers were killed. Then it was combined with 2mg Ativan every day. The Celexa started at 60mg and quickly upped to 80mg. I remained there for a long time. About March of 2002 I snapped out of my grief stupor and went back to work, at a new job. That's when I realized that part of my grief stupor was actually the Celexa (interestingly enough, not the Ativan). I am still taking 2mg of Ativan every day and feel great, no side effects. But to remove the brain cloud my doctor swapped the Celexa 80mg for Lexapro 50 mg in one shot. Actually he told me to try 40mg if I didn't want to go all out with the 50mg.
> >
> > So it was a clean swap, you see? Impossible to say actually when I upped my dosage. However, I have steadily been on Lexapro and Ativan since late March 2002 with zero side effects.
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> > How are you feeling on Lexapro? Is it helping you? How long have you been on it?
> >
> > Take care,
> > Iolite
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> > > Iolite, how long have you been on the 50 mg? I am going up to 40 mg soon, and may need to go higher myself.
>
Posted by hok on December 24, 2002, at 10:09:51
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? Iolite, posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 23:19:31
It's been impossible to work my way up to 10mg of Lexapro, even after 2 months of taking it. The anxiety I get from it is just too much stress. I've been at 5mg and although I still have some anxiety from it, it's still a good compromise of anxiety vs. mood effect.
I still contemplate going back to celexa. I had a much better mood effect with celexa at 20 mg (the supposed equivalent to Lexapro's 5mg), and with a lot less anxiety. However, I don't have as much daytime sleepiness and cravings with the Lex. I guess it's too much of a toss-up right now, so I'm going to give Lexapro another month and see the pros and cons better.
How many of you are in the same boat- in that celexa caused a better mood effect and less anxiety but that you're sticking with Lexapro because it is much more "functional" since it gives you less side effects (e.g., daytime sleepiness, cravings, etc.)? Would like to know whoe else is wrestling with this decision to switch back.
Posted by leslieg on December 26, 2002, at 12:54:07
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems, posted by Sadsack on December 21, 2002, at 17:56:43
When I first started Lexapro, my ability to reach orgasim was greatly diminshed / almost non-existant. But now (8 weeks? later), it is almost back to normal. I think my desire is down a tad... From reading this board / what my pdoc has said / personal experience, it seems that all kinds of side effects can lessen with time -- the question is how much time does one give a side effect to go away. I'm not sure 4 weeks is enough time to go for adding another drug into the mix. Try waiting another month? Also, you may want to look into the timing -- if you take the lex in the evening and then attempt sex 2 hours later, that could make the side effects worse (IMO). If possible, try to time when you take the lex as far away as possible from when your husband is in the mood. (Ideally, take it after sex.)
Also, my jaw tension has eased some now too. At 4 weeks it was very noticable / annoying. Now it is just kinda in the background.
> I've been unable to reach orgasm since the Lex 4 weeks ago. Sad, since when I was Depressed and unmedicated I could get there with a kind word from my husband....I'm at my peak and missing it! But the other symptoms are better, so that's good I guess.....So do you all think an addition of wellbutrin would fix this-is it worth a shot? Might it also help with the tense neck and shoulders?
Posted by EGR on December 26, 2002, at 12:59:21
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems » Sadsack, posted by leslieg on December 26, 2002, at 12:54:07
WOW!!! Thanks for the encouragement! I've only been on it ten days, so I'll just wait. Thanks again!!
Posted by leslieg on December 26, 2002, at 13:00:25
In reply to Re: lexapro 10mg, posted by panicbutton on December 22, 2002, at 7:56:23
My first week or so on Lexapro (5mg) had me very jittery and bouncing off the walls. It didn't help that I was also taking Provigil (a wake-up pill for narcoleptics). I stopped the Provigil, which helped, and then after a few more days I started needing to add it back (I did so at 1/2 dose for a few days). (I moved to 10 mg Lex after 6 days instead of the doc-recommended 4 days because of the jitteriness). So in answer to your concern, I think you should try a few more days (and stay off the coffee). If it stays just as bad, talk to your doc. But if you seem to be less jittery every day, take that as a good sign. (In fact, I've started taking my lex at night because now it makes me sleepy! Go figure.)
Leslie G.
> > I've used Prozac before, and the only side-effect was switching off my libido. I've started taking Lexapro and (granted it's only been a couple of days) it seems to make me wired as all get-up. I mean all day wired. Makes my stomach feel a bit strange, kind of like I'm really hungry but not. Yeah, sounds strange, but I'm normally a pretty down sort of person...always tired. Maybe my doctor accidentally gave me speed :). Am I imagining this, or has anyone else experienced this. I'm gonna keep with it for a bit to see how it goes, but these couple days have been pretty strange.
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> I found that Effexor made me feel much the same way you are describing with Lexapro. I am now taking Lexapro at only a 5 mg. dose for anxiety attacks. I was supposed to switch to 10 mg. a day, but when I did, I felt agitated. I went back to 5 mg. a day and am doing well with it. It is interesting that different medications cause different side effects for nearly everyone. Perhaps a lower dose would cause less of the "wired" feeling you are having. I wouldn't change, however, without consulting the doctor who prescribed it for you. Good luck!
Posted by Tama on December 27, 2002, at 21:26:20
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
I have been on Lexapro for 5 weeks now. I sleep way too sound. I can't get up in the morning. Sometimes it seems like I am awake but can't move. I am very tired, have gained weight. I do seem to be less irritable and less anxious. Maybe the sleep side effects and weight gain are due to the winter season. I just hate being tired and wanting to sleep all the time.
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