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Posted by ayuda on December 20, 2002, at 21:49:06
In reply to Re: Thanks dragonfly - Question Ayuda?? » ayuda, posted by Geezer on December 20, 2002, at 11:14:46
> > > A question about traz. if you don't mind? I completed 11 ECT treatments 2 weeks ago and currently take 40mg Parnate (strong dopamine effect). After 8 weeks the Parnate is beginning to help the depression (i am TRD-have taken the SSRIs, TCAs, and mood stabilizers) but the insomnia is almost unbearable. I took traz. when it first came out many years ago and hyped as a good AD. I gained 40 pounds in the first few months and spent two years trying to stay awake during the daytime. At present 1mg. of Klonopin along with 20mg of Ambien gives me 3-4 hours sleep some nights and some nights none at all. I have a past history of Benzo. abuse so I can't go further in that direction. The pdoc wants me to use traz., I am sure it will do the trick for sleep but can't tolerate the daytime "sleepiness". In your opinion would a 50mg. dose every third night be sufficient? I am aware of the problems associated with sever insomnia (please see my above post to dragonfly). Thanks so much for any suggestions you might be able to offer.
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> > > Geezer
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> > I can tell you how it affects me: sometimes I prefer to take 25mg (cut the 50 in half) because of the effects you are talking about. Since I am on winter break from school, I am not so concerned about daytime sleepiness. I know this is a luxury not many people have.
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> > Anyhow, when I take the 50mg at night, I have to go to bed right away -- if I don't, I will get drowsy, but then have a hard time going to sleep (sometimes I take it then stay up on the computer -- bad idea). In any event, once I started on the Trazodone, I started waking up around 7 a.m. every morning, regardless of when I took the med the night before. I am wide awake at that time, for about 2 hours. Then I get sleepy again, and need a nap. I do stay a bit sleepy through the day, but since I don't have a 9-5 job, I can function through it. I also don't notice it much, though I will admit my intake of caffeinated coffee has gone up drastically.
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> > So to answer your question, you might want to try 25mg at night, but I don't know that it will help to not take it every night. It doesn't have a cumulative affect with me -- if I don't take it, I don't sleep. Then again, like I said, I drink more coffee to stay awake during the day, so I don't know if that is affecting my insomnia.
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> Thanks ayuda,
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> I will try the 25mg. as you suggest - I just have a terrible time with drugs that cause daytime drowsiness. I was just doing a web search on a drug I heard mentioned on TV last night. It is called NEUROCRINE manufactured by Pfizer. You can find it on the Pfizer web site - it is in stage III clinical trials and due for release late 2003. No doubt the FDA will delay it longer than that. I called Pfizer but they could not give me anymore info than found on the web site. Says it is not a benzo. Thanks for your help.
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> Geezer
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>Thanks for that info, too -- my roommate's dad is a Pfizer rep, I'll ask him to keep me apprised of the progress of the drug.
Posted by ayuda on December 20, 2002, at 21:52:35
In reply to The responses have been appreciated, posted by sleepyhead on December 20, 2002, at 11:46:39
> Thanks for everyone's input on my insomnia.
> First, let me make clear that I have no depression or anxiety disorder. The doctor who prescribed the Lexapro is not a psychologist -he is a neurologist. I have seen him 3 times for a total of 10 minutes -roughly 3 minutes per visit. Even if I was depressed, he could not make a diagnosis in that time.
> I'm flushing the Lexapro and my doc. I'll just write it off to another miserable experience with the medical profession.
But don't give up on finding something for your insomnia -- try going to a family practitioner or other generalist who won't over-treat you. Insomnia is no fun -- I suffer from it even when I'm not suffering from depression or taking ADs, and nothing feels better than getting a good night's sleep every night.
Posted by jtc on December 20, 2002, at 23:04:51
In reply to Thanks dragonfly, posted by sleepyhead on December 20, 2002, at 5:19:34
Hi everyone,
I just had a question about Effexor XR. I am currently taking 75 mg once daily for about six months now and I have gained weight and seem to keep gaining weight. Has this happened to anyone else? I also take Klonopin, .5 mg at night for anxiety. I used to take Luvox for about three years and I am starting to think I should just go back on it. Last time I saw my psychiatrist he mentioned that I might try Lexapro but I don't think I want to try it after reading all the info about it. I am not really fond of Effexor either. I have tried many ADs in the past. My problem is GAD and anxiety, panic disorder and some depression. My 8 1/2 year old daughter has just been put on Effexor XR 37.5 mg a day. She has been taking it for about 4 weeks now because she has anxiety that is affecting her school work and her health. She worries about everything, even simple things. I guess she has inherited this from me. I am worried about her taking the Effexor and my husband and I thought it over before we agreed to let her try this. She has been seeing a psychologist as well as the psychiatrist who prescribed the Effexor for her. Her pediatrician even says she thinks the Effexor might be good for her to try. Has anyone had any similar situations like this with their young kids?
Thanks for the input, JC
Posted by Ctynes on December 20, 2002, at 23:22:05
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
I started on Lexapro 5 weeks ago. I had previously been on Prozac (made me feel totally zoned) for two years. I then went to Paxil for a while, numbed me out. So far, I have liked the Lexapro. I take mine at night. I have always had difficulty getting going in the mornings. Now, no problem. I seem to be the only one at work who doesn’t take things too seriously, looks for solutions, not blame, and I don’t have time for the negative idle talk. I’m me again J. After being on the others, and going through “the change” I had hoped for maybe some reduction in hunger, but not so. Not that I am gaining, but I am not losing either. Although I do crave chocolate (always have) I mostly crave the salty stuff now. I can’t eat as much in one sitting, but I eat more times a day. The main problem everyone seems to have is sex drive. Mine is coming back, but alas, only in my dreams. Take care, Carla
Posted by EGR on December 20, 2002, at 23:39:54
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Ctynes on December 20, 2002, at 23:22:05
You take it at night? At what time, right before bed or earlier in the evening? How many mgs? Thanks...EGR
Posted by Ctynes on December 21, 2002, at 0:13:10
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl » Ctynes, posted by EGR on December 20, 2002, at 23:39:54
> You take it at night? At what time, right before bed or earlier in the evening? How many mgs? Thanks...EGR
Right before bed. I found with other meds it was too difficult to sleep, now by bedtime, it's not a problem. I take 10 mg Lexapro. I was reading some other feedback, and I, like several others, hope that how I feel on these doesn't wear off. I have been looking to feel like me all my life.
Posted by Romulus on December 21, 2002, at 1:05:54
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Ctynes on December 21, 2002, at 0:13:10
It's very encouraging to hear about people who sleep well after taking Lexapro (not to mention the individual who was prescribed Lexapro as a sleep aid). I have been taking 10mg for 4 weeks now and find that it makes my mind race and I wake up during the night. Only when I combine it with Klonopin does the agitation go away, and I've started doing that in the morning instead of at night. That combination has been wonderful and I too have felt a bit more 'myself' lately. Best of luck, Ctynes.
> > You take it at night? At what time, right before bed or earlier in the evening? How many mgs? Thanks...EGR
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> Right before bed. I found with other meds it was too difficult to sleep, now by bedtime, it's not a problem. I take 10 mg Lexapro. I was reading some other feedback, and I, like several others, hope that how I feel on these doesn't wear off. I have been looking to feel like me all my life.
Posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 5:20:48
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » EGR, posted by Ritch on December 18, 2002, at 22:09:29
> > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
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> I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
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____________________________I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
Does anyone know why this occures?
J.
Posted by Ritch on December 21, 2002, at 8:26:31
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » Ritch, posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 5:20:48
> > > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
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> > I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
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> I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
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> My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
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> Does anyone know why this occures?
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> J.
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Every response I have read here that attempts to explain the etiology boils down to some interference with dopaminergic functioning that SSRI's apparently cause (more or less). Some folks even believe it is med-induced pseudoparkinsonism similar to what antipsychotics can cause. However, most of the stuff you hear about can often happen to people not even taking them (such as nightime jaw grinding-restless legs syndrome, etc.). Obviously they do involve motor circuits and they certainly are annoying. That is interesting about your experience with Depakote. The most significant "motor symptom" I got with it was fairly significant left-hand tremor at higher doses. I could hold my hands out straight and they would stay fairly still for a few moments, but then my left-hand would "let go" and flap (quite a distance) a few times and stop (etc.). Some folks are just sensitive to these motor side effects and may need to stop/switch meds to avoid them.
Posted by panicbutton on December 21, 2002, at 8:37:33
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » J. Wesley, posted by Ritch on December 21, 2002, at 8:26:31
> > > > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
> > >
> > > I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
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> > I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
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> > My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
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> > Does anyone know why this occures?
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> > J.
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> Every response I have read here that attempts to explain the etiology boils down to some interference with dopaminergic functioning that SSRI's apparently cause (more or less). Some folks even believe it is med-induced pseudoparkinsonism similar to what antipsychotics can cause. However, most of the stuff you hear about can often happen to people not even taking them (such as nightime jaw grinding-restless legs syndrome, etc.). Obviously they do involve motor circuits and they certainly are annoying. That is interesting about your experience with Depakote. The most significant "motor symptom" I got with it was fairly significant left-hand tremor at higher doses. I could hold my hands out straight and they would stay fairly still for a few moments, but then my left-hand would "let go" and flap (quite a distance) a few times and stop (etc.). Some folks are just sensitive to these motor side effects and may need to stop/switch meds to avoid them.
>I, too, have noticed increased muscle tightness in the neck and shoulders. Recently, I began experiencing some tension around my mouth and also some muscle twitching there. I blamed in on holiday stress, but now I wonder if it is related to Lexapro.
Posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 9:17:40
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw » J. Wesley, posted by Ritch on December 21, 2002, at 8:26:31
> > > > Well now, that IS interesting, because now that you've mentioned it, YES, my neck, jaw and shoulders/upper back have been tense... I never linked it to the lex. Let me ask all you veterans this... I've just been using a therapist and my GP... and I don't think my GP is well versed in this stuff because it seems to me that she's quick to switch meds. Would you guys recommend me finding a pdoc or sticking with the GP and maybe making med suggestions to her?
> > >
> > > I would hang in there with the GP for awhile, precisely because she is willing to make some med changes, especially if you are being treated for uncomplicated typical unipolar depression (which isn't severe). You could get stuck with a pdoc that will force you to wait out three full months on an AD that is flopping, which could be worse than switching too frequently. As far as the muscle tension issues go-you may as well just pick your poison with the SSRI's. I get a different muscle thing with every one of them. Right now, I find the Effexor stiff-neck-upper back muscle thing preferable to the other muscle sfx variations on other serotonergics.
> > >
> > ____________________________
> >
> > I to had this problem with lexapro. I was aware of this symptom because depakote caused the same muscle tightness in my back and shoulders. I could barely hold my head up on depakote, so when I had the same symptoms develop with lexapro I called my pdoc and he told me to stop taking it.
> >
> > My pdoc doesn't know why this happens or what causes it. I have done some research on this and can't find anything that explains this symptom.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this occures?
> >
> > J.
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> Every response I have read here that attempts to explain the etiology boils down to some interference with dopaminergic functioning that SSRI's apparently cause (more or less). Some folks even believe it is med-induced pseudoparkinsonism similar to what antipsychotics can cause. However, most of the stuff you hear about can often happen to people not even taking them (such as nightime jaw grinding-restless legs syndrome, etc.). Obviously they do involve motor circuits and they certainly are annoying. That is interesting about your experience with Depakote. The most significant "motor symptom" I got with it was fairly significant left-hand tremor at higher doses. I could hold my hands out straight and they would stay fairly still for a few moments, but then my left-hand would "let go" and flap (quite a distance) a few times and stop (etc.). Some folks are just sensitive to these motor side effects and may need to stop/switch meds to avoid them._______________________________________
It has been some time since I checked the side effects of depakote, but I seem to remember that when I got ahold of the package insert, there was mention of stiff neck and back pain. I just checked the info about side effects for depakote on rxlist.com and bingo, my memory seems to be intact.
My experience with depakote has been that I can only tolerate 500mgs/day. Anything higher and I have the neck and back pain which was really quite painful. I also had significant cognitive and weight gain problems with depakote.
I wasn't aware other people were having the back and neck problem with lexapro that I ran into, but I recognized it within a few days and drew the correlation to depakote immediately. As a result I didn't have to go through any tapering process cause I had only been on 5mgs/day for about a week when I stopped it.
I have always been leary of the ssri's because there is pretty clear evidence now that long term use of them can, in some people, induce movement disorders similar to TD. It certainly isn't much of a stretch to see how med-induced psuedoparkisonism could account for the back and neck problems. Thanks for your post.
J. Wesley
Posted by dragonfly on December 21, 2002, at 9:26:31
In reply to Re: Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw, posted by panicbutton on December 21, 2002, at 8:37:33
I too went thru the tightness in my upper back. I at first thought my job had caused it. It doesnt bother me now, I still clench my jaw alot though. This is the first time I have been prescribed any medication for clinical depression. I had a hysterectomy this past June. My depression was blamed on my "female" hormones for years. I never slept, that was the worst. Anxiety was interfering with everything. Then 2 months ago I fell totally apart! My husband INSISTED I go to my gyno to get my hormones checked. I was to the point I couldn't do my job well. Nothing worse than building an oak set of custom cabinet doors one inch too small!! Thank god I work for my dad and he understood something was going on. It took two days to fix and for a week I was on the verge of"being sick" I just couldn't believe I made that BAD of a mistake. It was hard for me to believe I had depression, I had no reason to be depressed! I have a wonderfull husband ( actually a very understanding one) I have a family who loves me. We both have very good jobs, beautifull house. How could I be depressed? Had to be my hormones! I guess in a way it is my hormones.I was shocked when my gyno put me on a anti-deppressant. Now a little over a month later I am very glad he did! I can deal with the clenching jaw chewing gum helps also helps with the dry mouth! I have picked up some little quirks now. I talk 3 times as much as I did before, everyone says I act like I am in a hurry to get things done. My paper work is 100% neater and I clean all the time. I have even started back riding my exercise bike.I am happy my husband is happy my dad(boss) is happy. I hope the side effects don't change or get worse as time goes by.
Posted by EGR on December 21, 2002, at 10:33:23
In reply to Re: depakote, lexapro and back and neck pain » Ritch, posted by J. Wesley on December 21, 2002, at 9:17:40
My dentist told me about the jaw clenching and teeth grinding s/e, but I didn't associate it with the neck/back. He also said that if I have a problem with dry mouth to let him know and he'll prescribe Rx toothpaste... something about saliva and bacteria. I don't have any problem sleeping and feel fantastic on 10mg... I'm supposed to increase to 20 today, but I don't see any reason to, so I'm not going to. The tightness seems to be lessening.
EGR
Posted by jimmygold70 on December 21, 2002, at 12:22:25
In reply to Tense Muscles: upper back, neck and jaw, posted by newuser2 on December 17, 2002, at 8:50:27
Switch to Paxil.
Jimmy
Posted by ayuda on December 21, 2002, at 12:22:51
In reply to Re: Question about Effexor, posted by jtc on December 20, 2002, at 23:04:51
> Hi everyone,
> I just had a question about Effexor XR. I am currently taking 75 mg once daily for about six months now and I have gained weight and seem to keep gaining weight. Has this happened to anyone else? I also take Klonopin, .5 mg at night for anxiety. I used to take Luvox for about three years and I am starting to think I should just go back on it. Last time I saw my psychiatrist he mentioned that I might try Lexapro but I don't think I want to try it after reading all the info about it. I am not really fond of Effexor either. I have tried many ADs in the past. My problem is GAD and anxiety, panic disorder and some depression. My 8 1/2 year old daughter has just been put on Effexor XR 37.5 mg a day. She has been taking it for about 4 weeks now because she has anxiety that is affecting her school work and her health. She worries about everything, even simple things. I guess she has inherited this from me. I am worried about her taking the Effexor and my husband and I thought it over before we agreed to let her try this. She has been seeing a psychologist as well as the psychiatrist who prescribed the Effexor for her. Her pediatrician even says she thinks the Effexor might be good for her to try. Has anyone had any similar situations like this with their young kids?
> Thanks for the input, JC
I gained 40 pounds since March, all on Effexor XR. In fact, since I've switched to Lexapro, I am having liposuction to get rid of the excess fat that was caused by the Effexor. I am 37 years old (almost 38), and female, and cannot live with this excess fat. I've always been in shape, and even though I gained a little bit of weight on Zoloft and Celexa (10 pounds over a years' time), NOTHING compares to what happened with Effexor. I was also completely nauseated, especially when my doctor took me up to 225mg -- I developed an ulcer after a month on 75 mg -- but my appetite was ravenous. I am so much happier on the Lexapro -- even though it doesn't help my anxiety as well as the Effexor, at least I am not constantly nauseated and burping, and I'm eating normally (even less than normal).
Posted by Sadsack on December 21, 2002, at 17:56:43
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems, posted by mills on December 13, 2002, at 16:54:56
I've been unable to reach orgasm since the Lex 4 weeks ago. Sad, since when I was Depressed and unmedicated I could get there with a kind word from my husband....I'm at my peak and missing it! But the other symptoms are better, so that's good I guess.....So do you all think an addition of wellbutrin would fix this-is it worth a shot? Might it also help with the tense neck and shoulders?
Posted by EGR on December 21, 2002, at 20:27:46
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems, posted by Sadsack on December 21, 2002, at 17:56:43
I'll let you guys know tomorrow. After getting off Wellbutrin and starting Lex (earlier this week), I had my first O since starting on meds (paxil to effexor to wellbuttin) 8 weeks ago. Today's my 6th day on Lex and the desire is sure there... I'm in a good mood too, so we'll see. ;-)
EGR (female, if you're interested)
Posted by comftnumb on December 21, 2002, at 20:48:13
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin as a side dish orgasm problems, posted by Sadsack on December 21, 2002, at 17:56:43
I took Effexor and Wellbutrin together for 4months and I still had the delayed orgasms caused by Effexor. Unfortunately, I don't think the Wellbutrin can erase the sexual side effects of an SSRI. If you aren't able to get orgasms after a few months you might consider just switching to Wellbutrin.
Posted by sageh1 on December 21, 2002, at 23:16:21
In reply to Re: lexapro 10mg, posted by cody on October 3, 2002, at 18:15:21
I've used Prozac before, and the only side-effect was switching off my libido. I've started taking Lexapro and (granted it's only been a couple of days) it seems to make me wired as all get-up. I mean all day wired. Makes my stomach feel a bit strange, kind of like I'm really hungry but not. Yeah, sounds strange, but I'm normally a pretty down sort of person...always tired. Maybe my doctor accidentally gave me speed :). Am I imagining this, or has anyone else experienced this. I'm gonna keep with it for a bit to see how it goes, but these couple days have been pretty strange.
Posted by BlackSheep on December 22, 2002, at 7:09:28
In reply to lexapro question for all, posted by johnj on December 18, 2002, at 11:12:41
Yes, the sleepiness you are experiencing is quite common and usually subsides within a week.
Posted by panicbutton on December 22, 2002, at 7:56:23
In reply to Re: lexapro 10mg, posted by sageh1 on December 21, 2002, at 23:16:21
> I've used Prozac before, and the only side-effect was switching off my libido. I've started taking Lexapro and (granted it's only been a couple of days) it seems to make me wired as all get-up. I mean all day wired. Makes my stomach feel a bit strange, kind of like I'm really hungry but not. Yeah, sounds strange, but I'm normally a pretty down sort of person...always tired. Maybe my doctor accidentally gave me speed :). Am I imagining this, or has anyone else experienced this. I'm gonna keep with it for a bit to see how it goes, but these couple days have been pretty strange.
I found that Effexor made me feel much the same way you are describing with Lexapro. I am now taking Lexapro at only a 5 mg. dose for anxiety attacks. I was supposed to switch to 10 mg. a day, but when I did, I felt agitated. I went back to 5 mg. a day and am doing well with it. It is interesting that different medications cause different side effects for nearly everyone. Perhaps a lower dose would cause less of the "wired" feeling you are having. I wouldn't change, however, without consulting the doctor who prescribed it for you. Good luck!
Posted by Romulus on December 22, 2002, at 15:11:49
In reply to Re: depakote, lexapro and back and neck pain, posted by EGR on December 21, 2002, at 10:33:23
> My dentist told me about the jaw clenching and teeth grinding s/e, but I didn't associate it with the neck/back. He also said that if I have a problem with dry mouth to let him know and he'll prescribe Rx toothpaste... something about saliva and bacteria. I don't have any problem sleeping and feel fantastic on 10mg... I'm supposed to increase to 20 today, but I don't see any reason to, so I'm not going to. The tightness seems to be lessening.
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> EGRTo add my personal experience to the mix, I have had issues with teeth grinding and jaw and neck tightness for a long time, since long before I started an AD. My suspicion is that it often comes from agitation. I've had constant agitation and bottled up feelings for years, and it gets worse when I'm conscious of being on a powerful medication. Could it be that some of you are wary of side effects and therefore feel the tightness? I find that the tension goes away if I consciously change my mindset and relax my muscles--leading me to believe it's me not the medication.
Posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 12:39:48
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
> [Posted by ggrrl on June 11, 2002, at 1:19:51]
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> > Seems like there are a lot of people on here who have talked about Lexapro's improved side-effects, specifically that it has less tiredness and sexual side effects than Celexa. Some have said that it has the same side effects as Celexa. However most people are quoting from press releases - does anyone here know from experience (theirs or others')?
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Yes. I switched from Celexa 80mg a day, to Lexapro 50mg a day.The Celexa caused a terrible fogginess. I felt like my eyes were crossed. That's the only side effect I had but it was extremely annoying. I was always in a sort of a daze.
Now on Lexapro my mind is sharp PLUS the added benefits of the decreased depression, which I had also been experiencing with Celexa.
I would say that the change was very beneficial for me, considering the Lexapro was just as effective as the Celexa but without the brain cloud.
Best of luck to everyone
Iolite
Posted by mills on December 23, 2002, at 13:12:38
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 12:39:48
Iolite, how long have you been on the 50 mg? I am going up to 40 mg soon, and may need to go higher myself.
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> The Celexa caused a terrible fogginess. I felt like my eyes were crossed. That's the only side effect I had but it was extremely annoying. I was always in a sort of a daze.
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Posted by Iolite on December 23, 2002, at 16:16:56
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? Iolite, posted by mills on December 23, 2002, at 13:12:38
Hi. I started the Celexa on Sept 11th, 2001 when all my co-workers were killed. Then it was combined with 2mg Ativan every day. The Celexa started at 60mg and quickly upped to 80mg. I remained there for a long time. About March of 2002 I snapped out of my grief stupor and went back to work, at a new job. That's when I realized that part of my grief stupor was actually the Celexa (interestingly enough, not the Ativan). I am still taking 2mg of Ativan every day and feel great, no side effects. But to remove the brain cloud my doctor swapped the Celexa 80mg for Lexapro 50 mg in one shot. Actually he told me to try 40mg if I didn't want to go all out with the 50mg.So it was a clean swap, you see? Impossible to say actually when I upped my dosage. However, I have steadily been on Lexapro and Ativan since late March 2002 with zero side effects.
How are you feeling on Lexapro? Is it helping you? How long have you been on it?Take care,
Iolite> Iolite, how long have you been on the 50 mg? I am going up to 40 mg soon, and may need to go higher myself.
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> > > [Posted by ggrrl on June 11, 2002, at 1:19:51]
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> > > > Seems like there are a lot of people on here who have talked about Lexapro's improved side-effects, specifically that it has less tiredness and sexual side effects than Celexa. Some have said that it has the same side effects as Celexa. However most people are quoting from press releases - does anyone here know from experience (theirs or others')?
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> > Now on Lexapro my mind is sharp PLUS the added benefits of the decreased depression, which I had also been experiencing with Celexa.
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> > I would say that the change was very beneficial for me, considering the Lexapro was just as effective as the Celexa but without the brain cloud.
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> > Best of luck to everyone
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